[Fis] Pecking Order . . .

2016-01-14 Thread Marcus Abundis
Hi Howard, > the pecking order, in fact, can be traced back to hierarchies within atoms 380,000 years after > the big bang and to the hierarchies within galaxies and solar systems 400 million years after > the big bang. An assertion like this requires more explanation I think . . . I am still

[Fis] Toyabe 2010 [ Information converted to energy ] / Van den Broeck 2010 Thermodynamics of Information / Cartlidge 2010 Information converted to energy

2016-01-14 Thread John Collier
Stan Salthe sent the item below to Pedro and myself, but not to the list, as he had used up his posting allotment. With the permission of both of them, who think that this is an important issue, I am posting some brief comments I made back to Stan, as well as Stan’s email content, in the hope

[Fis] Fw: Toyabe 2010 [ Information converted to energy ] / Van den Broeck 2010 Thermodynamics of Information: REQUEST TO TERRENCE DEACON

2016-01-14 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Folks, I do not wish to be negative, but I think this example is contaminated by a homunculus. There are so much energy coming into the system from various sources that the alleged result is not surprising. I would be glad to be wrong but the decision should be up to someone like Terry