Re: [Fis] _ RE: _ Re: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, Thanks to Jerry and Koichiro for their insightful and deep comments. Nevertheless the question from Howard was very clear and direct and I wonder whether we have responded that way --as usual, the simplest becomes the most difficult. I will try here. There is no "real"

Re: [Fis] _ RE: _ Re: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Krassimir Markov
Dear Pedro and FIS Colleagues, First of all, because this is first my post in this year, please receive my best wishes for health and prosperity in the new 2016 year! Let it be peaceful and constructive! About quarks and all other entities I would to remember (in accordance with Pedro) that

Re: [Fis] _ RE: _ Re: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
There is real communication between cells, people, organizations... as the input is sensed (or disregarded) and judged according to boundary conditions and to the accumulated experiential information content of the entity. The outcome is adaptive: aiming at the self-production/self-propagation of

Re: [Fis] _ RE: _ Re: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Gyorgy Darvas
Dear Pedro, and the previous discussants, I refer to my paper presented last year at the Vienna summit: - quarks continuously exchange gluons; - gluon exchange takes place between quarks in different "colour" states (otherwise they were in identical quantum states, what is excluded by the Pauli

[Fis] _ Re: _ RE: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Bob Logan
Dear Colleagues - Using the terms communication and information to talk about the interaction of quarks and all non-sentient particles for that matter is strictly metaphoric and as a teacher of the poetry of physics how could I object. I do not but at the same time I want to invoke my

Re: [Fis] _ RE: _ Re: Cho 2016 The social life of quarks

2016-01-21 Thread Robert E. Ulanowicz
Just a few words to follow on Pedro's concerning Howard's question: >From our perspective all quarks are completely indistinguishable and homogeneous, so the practical answer to Howard's question is "No, quarks cannot communicate --period!" It is possible, however, to imagine that quarks, being

[Fis] A Meta(information)- scientific comment

2016-01-21 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear FISers, The most scientific aspect of the recent exchanges is their existence. It is obvious that some people feel more comfortable than others in ascribing properties to quantum particles that are characteristic of the thermodynamic world in which we exist, in particular difference (let