Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear Michel, I spent my career doing much the same thing with mutual information, which in this case quantifies the degree of constraint among the species. Encouraged by the suggestions of E.P. Odum, I hypothesized that ecosystems

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Cher Michel, Loet thinks that "Nobody of us provide an operative framework and a single (just one!) empirical testable prevision able to assess "information" I did not say this, but reacted to one of our colleagues saying this. Best, Loet ___

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear colleagues Loet thinks that "Nobody of us provide an operative framework and a single (just one!) empirical  testable prevision able to assess "information" In my ecological work, I try  to know the relations between living organisms and their environment, and I use Brillouin's formula

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Jose, I agree that the semantic and physical notions of ‘information’ are intertwined, and I think we can be more explicit about how the are related. I claim that physical information is general, while semantic information is merely a subset of physical information. Semantic information is

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear all, What if, in order to understand information and its relationship with data and meaning, we distinguish the kind of system we are talking about in each case? We may distinguish systems by their type of operation and the form of their selforganization. There are living systems, mind

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear Krassimir et al., Your post provides an example of the importance that semantics plays in our discussions. I have suggested on several occasions that statements about ‘information’ should explicitly distinguish between a purely heuristic definition, such as those involving ‘meaning’, and

Re: [Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

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[Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear Krassimir, Data is that what we see by using the eyes. Information is that what we do not see by using the eyes, but we see by using the brain; because it is the background to that what we see by using the eyes. Reminder: 3) Definition >From “Natural Orders”: 8.3.3.3 Information is

[Fis] If "data = information", why we need both concepts?

Dear John and FIS Colleagues, I am Computer Science specialist and I never take data to be information. For not specialists maybe it is normal "data to be often taken to be information" but this is not scientific reasoning. Simple question: if "data = information", why we need both concepts?