Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2016-02-05 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Bruno: These distinctions are not to be identified into a single "self" of the self-reference, but to be dissolved (differentiated) in discourse. They are carried by the communication in science & technology studies or more broadly (since including the science/society interface) in the inf

Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2016-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Loet, Sorry for bumping this old post, but I cannot resist (I tried!) to add my grain of salt. On 21 Oct 2015, at 08:37, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: Self-reference is a key principle in art and humor and it may also be a key component of the structured coherence in science Pedro and we

Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2015-10-20 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Self-reference is a key principle in art and humor and it may also be a key component of the structured coherence in science Pedro and we are seeking. Dear Joseph: Do not count me in to the "we", please. In my opinion, these "unity of science" principles are outdated. At issue is to specify

Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2015-10-20 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Cari Pedro e Joseph, Cari Tutti, ho scritto sempre le stesse cose. La conoscenza dell'armonia o l'armonia della conoscenza รจ basta sulla super-legge dell'informazione (energia della cultura) o dell'energia (informazione della natura). L'informazione naturale o termodinamica, genetica, matematica e

[Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2015-10-20 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Pedro, Dear FISers, Pedro's note conveys very well the intellectual /Angst/ I and probably also many of you feel confronted by the complexity of the 'crazy story' which we are both tellers of and listeners to. Pedro's division into five domains of knowledge (and knowing) is a very useful