Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-08-25 Thread John Collier
Nice post, Bob. I agree pretty much. Brooks and Wiley got slammed by Morowitz for using the *Real* energy in their book, which being about biology is the only sensible notion of energy. There is still a need for a clear dimensional analysis of the relation(s) between information and energy.

Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-08-25 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Bob wrote: Recall that some thermodynamic variables, especially work functions like Helmholz Gibbs free energies and exergy all are tightly related to information measures. In statistical mechanical analogs, for example, the exergy becomes RT times the mutual information among the molecules S:

Re: [Fis] Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT.

2014-08-25 Thread Krassimir Markov
Dear Colleagues, Thank you for comments and remarks. Many thanks to Mark for his interesting post. Really, the correspondence between energy and information is fundamental and needs to be clearly explained. I want to present my point of view because it is different from other ones. It is

Re: [Fis] Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT.

2014-08-25 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Dear Krassimir et al., I like your view very much with one exception. I think it confounds information with meaning, which I think can lead to problems. For example, I could give two people the same message written on your identical pieces of paper. It is written in English, but only one of