Dear Terry, list.
I apologize that I have not had the time to keep up with this discussion. I
did try to read Terry's text but found it strangely impenetrable with many
more word than were necessary to make a point. This is, perhaps, merely a
question of style, repeated in the recent books of his
Dear Pedro, Dear FISers,
Terrence Deacon has made a passionate plea for the proper consideration
of his approach to information science that his contribution merits. But this
consideration is only possible if he is willing to accept that some of his
positions may be contaminated with
Thanks to Joseph for this spirited rejoinder, and to Krassimir for
reminding us that convergence is perhaps more likely to succeed than
any single-minded approach.
With Krassimir, I am in agreement. I have probably overstated the
priority of my own approach, even if I do believe it to be a best
My apologies for wordiness. We all have our weaknesses. I am curious
about your claim that a complete theory of information may be
impossible. I am not even sure what this would mean — except
irresolvable dualism. But as to the issue of whether I advocate an
identity theory, I can
Sadly Taking the time (and wordiness) required to explain my critique
and redefinition of emergence is beyond the scope this venue and your
patience, so I can only point to my too lengthy book for that account.
Needless to say I do not accept either dualism or identity theory. My
In your discussion paper, you state that an interpretive process can only be
adequately defined with respect to a process that is organized to maintain
itself by repairing and reconstituting its essential form and dispositions - a
teleodynamic process. I agree with this definition.
This emergence theory, at least on the face of it, is then surely an
advocacy of dualism, since epiphenomenalism is logically indistinguishable
from identity theory. So I must ask how you propose to distinguish the two.
Information theory is a way of speaking about what happens in
non vi frastornate. Il pensiero pensante non lo ferma nessuno. Una legge
dell'informazione per tutto il sapere e l'intera esistenza è possibile e
inevitabile, al di là di ogni specificazione. Inform-azione significa
sempre e in tutti i settori del sapere, dare o prendere forma,
Thanks Pedro for your remarks. We have not reached our destination as you point
out but the important thing is to enjoy the journey which I certainly have. It
is inevitable that with such a slippery concept as information that there will
be different destinations depending on the travellers but
Dear Terry and colleagues,
At your convenience, during the first week of February or so we may put
an end to the ongoing New Year Lecture --discussants willing to enter
their late comments should hurry up. Your own final or concluding
comment will be appreciated.
Personally, my late comment
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