Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Marcus, When considering things in terms of "functional significance" one must confront the need to address "meaning" in terms of both the living and the physical . . . and their necessarily entangled nature. “Meaning” is first a linguistic construct; its construction requires

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 32, Issue 13

2016-11-12 Thread Malcolm Dean
To an animal about to be attacked and eaten, the meaning of an approaching predator is quite clear. Obviously, meaning is produced by, within, and among Observers, and not by language. Meaning may be produced *through* language, not *in* language, as a medium of interaction (aka communication).

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Alex Hankey
Dear Loet and Fis Colleagues, Are you aware of Roy Frieden's 'Physics from Fisher Information'. His book was published in the 1990s. I consider it a very powerful statement. Ultimately everything we can detect at both macroscopic and microscopic levels depends on information production from a

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread John Collier
More on Quantum information and emergent spacetime, this time by Erik P. Verlinde: Emergent Gravity and the Dark Universe There is a less formal review at http://m.phys.org/news/2016-11-theory-gravity-dark.html I consider the idea very speculative, as I have

Re: [Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Alex and colleagues, Thank you for the reference; but my argument was about “meaning”. “Meaning” can only be considered as constructed in language. Other uses of the word are metaphorical. For example, the citation to Maturana. Information, in my opinion, can be defined

[Fis] Intelligence Science in Chengdu

2016-11-12 Thread PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
Dear FIS Colleagues, During past days a conference on Intelligence Science was hold in Chengdu. It was organized by Zhao Chuan (fis member, who presented in this list about the same topic last year), and was chaired by Yixin Zhong (well known in this list too). Western FIS parties who attended

[Fis] Intelligence Science in Chengdu 2016, web page

2016-11-12 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Thank you Pedro! For those of FIS colleagues who might be interested in the details of ICIS2016 conference on Intelligence Science, including the presentations, here is the web page: http://www.intsci.ac.cn/ICIS2016/speaker.jsp Still more information can be found at http://www.intsci.ac.cn/en/

[Fis] FIS text testing spam filter

2016-11-12 Thread Karl Javorszky
Sorry for disturbing you with this test text. A lengthy response to Josph's statements in the discussion about Commutativity has not made it thru the spam filter. Maybe, next week it can be persuaded to obey its human masters. Nice weekend to you (if you read this) Karl

[Fis] Is quantum information the basis of spacetime?

2016-11-12 Thread Marcus Abundis
Further to John's original note . . . and then to Pedro's further note > It would neatly apply to the living but also to the physical < This is, of course, a recurring issue for FIS – the matter of meaning . . . or even, what is "information?" When it comes to defining "meaning" (or information)