Re: [Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS

2017-09-15 Thread ZouXiaohui
a pair of information for any brain and any computer and any kind of another body iPhone -- Original -- From: ZouXiaohui <949309...@qq.com> Date: ,9?? 16,2017 8:15 To: Pedro C. Marijuan , fis ,

Re: [Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-15 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
I agree with Arturo. I understand information exclusively as matter and energy, and the diversity of their states through space/time. What else it there? The alternative would be to accept ‘information’ as merely an heuristic concept that helps us to communicate and make sense of our lives

[Fis] INFORMATION: A RECOGNIZED STATE OF MATTER

2017-09-15 Thread Krassimir Markov
Dear Pedro, Arturo, Michel, and FIS Colleagues, First of all, friendly greetings to everybody for the new FIS Season! It is nice to meet all of you again in the FIS List – alive and, I hope, healthy as it is possible! Energy and the Matter ARE ONE AND THE SAME! Let remember the Great Albert's

Re: [Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-15 Thread Michel Petitjean
Dear Pedro, dear Arturo and dear FISers, Thank you Pedro for these 10 principles of information science. Even if it happens that somebody could disagree with some of these principles, at least these 10 principles exist and they constitute a suitable basis (if not a reference) for further

Re: [Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-15 Thread Jose Javier Blanco Rivero
Dear Arturo, Math is indeed a language that CAN describe scientific issues, but it is not the only one. And its ability to cuantify scientific issues do not necesarily make it superior. Math and natural language face the same formal and logical problems: they cannot make staments about themselves

[Fis] INFORMATION: JUST A MATTER OF MATH

2017-09-15 Thread tozziart...@libero.it
Dear FISers, I'm sorry for bothering you, but I start not to agree from the very first principles. The only language able to describe and quantify scientific issues is mathematics.Without math, you do not have observables, and information is observable. Therefore, information IS energy or

[Fis] PRINCIPLES OF IS

2017-09-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, As promised herewith the "10 principles of information science". A couple of previous comments may be in order. First, what is in general the role of principles in science? I was motivated by the unfinished work of philosopher Ortega y Gasset, "The idea of principle in