[Fis] replies to Rafael, Joe & Steven

2008-05-25 Thread Stanley Salthe
Date: Sun, 25 May 2008 15:49:41 -0400 To: fis@listas.unizar.es From: Stanley Salthe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [Fis] list discussions Cc: Bcc: X-Attachments: to Rafael, Joe and Steven (my first posting his week)-- RAFAEL - Stan, probably the concept of order as repetition and predictabi

Re: [Fis] list discussions: Steven to Joe on Logic

2008-05-25 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear List, Joseph and John, I'm not sure John's comments actually went out to the list, but they were obviously intended to do so. I'm responding here to both as my first post of the new week. I do not disagree with Joseph's observations about predicate logic with reference to describing th

Re: [Fis] list discussions: Steven to Joe on Logic

2008-05-25 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear List Colleagues, Dear Steven, Much discussion has branched from Steven's first paragraph. This is my answer to his second. If the "order we may discern in nature" refers to aspects of real interactive and emergent processes, then in my view no truth-functional propositional or predicate logi

Re: [Fis] list discussions

2008-05-25 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
> Loet -- I would think that your statement > supports my contention that what is taken to be > naive confrontation with order in The World, > differs according to which naive observer we are > interrogating. Perhaps I should mention that > view I take here goes back to Jacob von Uexküll, >

Re: [Fis] list discussions

2008-05-25 Thread Stanley Salthe
Loet -- I would think that your statement supports my contention that what is taken to be naive confrontation with order in The World, differs according to which naive observer we are interrogating. Perhaps I should mention that view I take here goes back to Jacob von Uexküll, who pointed o