Re: [Fis] Information and Conformal Cyclic Cosmology

2013-05-17 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear John, Dear Sören and All, I think John is basically correct in starting from a physical basis for the origin of information in the universe, but Sören is also correct in that something more is needed to get to meaning. My view is, however, that the latter's cybersemiotics is based on a

Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 571, Issue 5

2013-05-17 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
John: On May 17, 2013, at 5:26 AM, fis-requ...@listas.unizar.es wrote: The vacuum background is random, and hence contains no information in the negentropy sense (see my kinds at Kinds of Information in Scientific Use. 2011. cognition, communication, co-operation. Vol 9, No 2 ). However it

[Fis] Information and Logic

2013-05-17 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Sören, Thank you for your prompt and pertinent response, which nevertheless allows me to make three points about my differences with cybesemiotics, starting, you will see why, from the last: 1. I am not a supporter of modern logics as these are generally understood (Peirce's

Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 571, Issue 5

2013-05-17 Thread Zong-Rong Li
Dear friends, I am glad to hear from you and interested in the topic you mentioned. However, recently I am busy at preparing a booklet for the academic exchange in FIS 2013, Moscow, there is not enough time for me to read, think, and respond. I will do that later and give my response in detail.