Re: [Fis] Collier's Metaphysics

2013-05-26 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
John: On May 26, 2013, at 10:26 AM, John Collier wrote: Your notion of metaphysics appears to so extremely narrowly restricted that you can exempt your own highly metaphysical writings from your definition of metaphysics. In fact, the traditional usage of the term metaphysics is not

Re: [Fis] Collier's Metaphysics

2013-05-26 Thread Bob Logan
Bruno - An interesting definition of God, omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient. And equally mysterious. Turing emulable and Robinson Arithmetic. How does one derive an understanding of the real world (the acoustic world) from axioms. The scientific method of observation, generalization,

Re: [Fis] Collier's Metaphysics. Bit from It

2013-05-26 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Folks, Julian Barbour wrote a paper entitled Bit from It for the 2011 FQXi Essay Contest, readily accessible on-line at Bit from It - FQXi. It won only 4th prize, but it shows pretty clearly that the It-from-Bit position mistakes abstraction for reality. As Barbour puts it, just because

Re: [Fis] Collier's Metaphysics

2013-05-26 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
On May 26, 2013, at 10:46 AM, John Collier wrote: I don't have much idea. I concur. Jerry___ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es https://webmail.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis