Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-09-04 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
John, I think you are misreading Stan’s comments a little. [Stan: please correct me if I am wrong about that.] I think it would be fair to say that older car engines were less well fit "between the energy gradient and the system attempting to utilize it”. Another way of saying this is that

Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-09-04 Thread John Collier
S: In decline in the actual material world that we inhabit. That is, the local world -- the world of input and dissipation. I think the information problem may be advanced if we try to explain why the energy efficiency of any work is so poor, and gets worse the harder we work. This is the key

Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-09-04 Thread Stanley N Salthe
John wrote: Catching up after a myriad of distracting problems. At 03:51 PM 2014-08-25, Stanley N Salthe wrote: Bob wrote: Recall that some thermodynamic variables, especially work functions like Helmholz & Gibbs free energies and exergy all are tightly related to information measures. In

Re: [Fis] Fw: Krassimir's Information Quadruple and GIT. Quintuples?

2014-09-04 Thread John Collier
Catching up after a myriad of distracting problems. At 03:51 PM 2014-08-25, Stanley N Salthe wrote: Bob wrote: Recall that some thermodynamic variables, especially work functions like Helmholz & Gibbs free energies and exergy all are tightly related to information measures. In statistical mechan