[Fis] vienna summit 2015

2014-11-03 Thread Wolfgang Hofkirchner
dear fisers,

just a note to remind you that there is still time (until 17 november 2015) for 
suggesting topics and organised events for the summit 2015. the suggestions i 
reveived so far from you can be counted with the fingers of one hand. 

have a look at summit.is4is.org and see the progress we are making. 

the formats of the proposed events are endless: you can suggest somebody for a 
keynote, a discussion between 2 experts, a podium/round table, a workshop, a 
paper session with a call for papers or invited papers etc.; the topics might 
touch any field dealt with so far in the discussion list or a new one. we can 
use the summit as opportunity to have face-to-face discussions. 

you can use the fis-list to prepare your proposal with other fisers as our 
friend javorszky did. 

looking forward to your suggestions,

wolfgang

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[Fis] RV: FIS, Weekly posting frequency.

2014-11-03 Thread pedro marijuan

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-Original Message-
From: Jerry LR Chandler jerry_lr_chand...@me.com
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:37:32 
To: Pedro C. Marijuanpcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Subject: FIS, Weekly posting frequency.

Pedro:

Just a small suggestion about the rules for posting to the FIS list serve.

Personally, I find the current constraint of two posts per week is so 
restrictive that it makes a conversation very difficult.  It necessitates long 
delays, during which time, one looses interest in the topic.  (We are flooded 
by a plethora of new ideas!)

I feel that the value of the list would be enhanced by permitting three or even 
four posts per week.

I would suggest that you consult with other members about this issue.

You may post this message to the list serve if you wish.

Cheers

Jerry


On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:

 Dear Marcin and colleagues,
 
 Many thanks for the sympathy and for the suggestion. I think your proposal is 
 quite in the spirit of the fis initiative. Maintaining the academic code of 
 conduct should be the First Rule of the list. The Second Rule, as is well 
 known, says that only two messages per week are allowed. And the Third Rule, 
 should be about clean posting. I mean, in order to placate the susceptibility 
 of the server filters the messages should be addressed only to fis, 
 exclusively, (a few other addresses might appear in the cc, but the lesser 
 the better), and not dragging old messages at the bottom is strongly 
 recommended... Additionally, we have a fis steering committee (integrated by 
 Yixin, Krassimir, Shu-Kun, and myself) that can arbitrate in contentious 
 cases where the First Rule should apply.
 
 Let us forget the present incident; always clarifying that FIS list is 
 completely open to criticisms, first on fis itself, and also addressed to any 
 other school or doctrine, either contemporary or from the past... knowing the 
 opinion of contrarians is as much important as knowing the opinions of the 
 followers. INFORMATION HAS ENORMOUSLY CHANGED OUR 
 SCIENTIFIC-ECONOMIC-CULTURAL-SOCIAL WORLD AND WE NEED RADICALLY DIFFERENT 
 IDEAS. By the way, there is an important work on social physics (but 
 arguing from the information flow point of view) by Alex Pentland that in my 
 opinion establishes the very foundations of SOCIAL INFORMATION SCIENCE--it 
 is a pity, and possibly  an error (?), that this author has placed his 
 exciting research under the banner of physics.
 
 best wishes ---Pedro
 


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[Fis] About weekly posting frequency.

2014-11-03 Thread Krassimir Markov

Dear Pedro, Jerry, and FIS Colleagues,

Several times I have not finished my discussions because of very long time I 
needed to wait for next (third or fourth) letter.


Practically no serious discussion could be provided - only messages on the 
moment and, of course - invited starting and finishing explanations.


In the same time, I see that the active part of FIS colleagues who really 
write letters is not so great.


And this part is separated in other two parts - colleagues who are 
permanently on line and those who respond only if it is in their short 
interest area.


Because of this I propose to add two new rules:

- to permit posting more than two or three letters if and only if they 
contain questions for clarifying the already presented ideas from other 
colleagues. It is possible to send such letters of line but practically 
one and the same questions rise from different colleagues and it is more 
good to see that such questions are already sent. For me, the questions are 
important part of the discussions. To make clear that the letter contains 
questions, in subject of the letter may be written Question 


- to answer the questions in cumulative manner, i.e. the answering person 
has to collect questions and to answer to all of them in one or two letters. 
In this case we may permit two additional letters for answering the 
questions with corresponded subject:  Answers 


For explanations,  comments and other messages I think two letters per week 
are enough


Friendly regards
Krassimir




-Original Message- 
From: pedro marijuan

Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 9:00 PM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] RV: FIS, Weekly posting frequency.


BlackBerry de movistar, allí donde estés está tu oficin@

-Original Message-
From: Jerry LR Chandler jerry_lr_chand...@me.com
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 10:37:32
To: Pedro C. Marijuanpcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Subject: FIS, Weekly posting frequency.

Pedro:

Just a small suggestion about the rules for posting to the FIS list serve.

Personally, I find the current constraint of two posts per week is so 
restrictive that it makes a conversation very difficult.  It necessitates 
long delays, during which time, one looses interest in the topic.  (We are 
flooded by a plethora of new ideas!)


I feel that the value of the list would be enhanced by permitting three or 
even four posts per week.


I would suggest that you consult with other members about this issue.

You may post this message to the list serve if you wish.

Cheers

Jerry


On Nov 3, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:


Dear Marcin and colleagues,

Many thanks for the sympathy and for the suggestion. I think your proposal 
is quite in the spirit of the fis initiative. Maintaining the academic 
code of conduct should be the First Rule of the list. The Second Rule, as 
is well known, says that only two messages per week are allowed. And the 
Third Rule, should be about clean posting. I mean, in order to placate the 
susceptibility of the server filters the messages should be addressed only 
to fis, exclusively, (a few other addresses might appear in the cc, but 
the lesser the better), and not dragging old messages at the bottom is 
strongly recommended... Additionally, we have a fis steering committee 
(integrated by Yixin, Krassimir, Shu-Kun, and myself) that can arbitrate 
in contentious cases where the First Rule should apply.


Let us forget the present incident; always clarifying that FIS list is 
completely open to criticisms, first on fis itself, and also addressed to 
any other school or doctrine, either contemporary or from the past... 
knowing the opinion of contrarians is as much important as knowing the 
opinions of the followers. INFORMATION HAS ENORMOUSLY CHANGED OUR 
SCIENTIFIC-ECONOMIC-CULTURAL-SOCIAL WORLD AND WE NEED RADICALLY DIFFERENT 
IDEAS. By the way, there is an important work on social physics (but 
arguing from the information flow point of view) by Alex Pentland that in 
my opinion establishes the very foundations of SOCIAL INFORMATION 
SCIENCE--it is a pity, and possibly  an error (?), that this author has 
placed his exciting research under the banner of physics.


best wishes ---Pedro




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