Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2016-02-05 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Bruno: These distinctions are not to be identified into a single "self" of the self-reference, but to be dissolved (differentiated) in discourse. They are carried by the communication in science & technology studies or more broadly (since including the science/society interface) in the

Re: [Fis] Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2016-02-05 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Loet, Sorry for bumping this old post, but I cannot resist (I tried!) to add my grain of salt. On 21 Oct 2015, at 08:37, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: Self-reference is a key principle in art and humor and it may also be a key component of the structured coherence in science Pedro and

[Fis] _ Re: Fw: Five Momenta. Five Itineraries

2016-02-05 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Bruno, Joseph -- The unity of the sciences comes from the fact that one understands sociality by way of biology, and one understands biology by way of chemistry, and then one understands chemistry by way of physics. Thus, the subsumptive hierarchy: {physics {chemistry {biology {sociality

[Fis] _ Re: Otto--re closing lecture

2016-02-05 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FISers, Just a couple of brief comments to Howard and Jerry. To Howards: thanks for the exciting New Year Lecture closure! However, your text below to Otto makes irresistible for me indulging in a final criticism. It is clear in the text that the boundaries of force are the very

[Fis] _ Re: _ Re: Otto--re closing lecture

2016-02-05 Thread HowlBloom
Pedro, your list of disciplines that information theory needs to ponder is brilliant--active matter, coupled oscillators, pharmacology, physiology, and developmental biology. to go back to the abiotic universe for a moment: here's one implication of the theory of a communicative cosmos