Re: [Fis] non-living objects COULD NOT “exchange information”

2017-03-24 Thread Karl Javorszky
1) Let me second to the point Alex raises: machines, computers, do exchange information. It would be against cultural conventions to say that the notification that the refrigerator sends to your phone's app "to-do-list" of the content "milk only 0.5 liter available" is not an information. The sign

Re: [Fis] non-living objects COULD NOT “exchange information”

2017-03-24 Thread Alex Hankey
BUT, in common parlance, computers and mobile phones 'exchange information' (in the abstract, digital sense) all the time. Including this email. If you wish to cleanly restrict yourself to semantic content, the the form of information that I presented to FiS a year ago offers the only scientifical

Re: [Fis] non-living objects COULD NOT “exchange information”

2017-03-24 Thread Lars-Göran Johansson
24 mars 2017 kl. 16:25 skrev Krassimir Markov mailto:mar...@foibg.com>>: Dear Arturo and FIS Colleagues, Let me remember that: The basic misunderstanding that non-living objects could “exchange information” leads to many principal theoretical as well as psychological faults. For instance, pho

[Fis] non-living objects COULD NOT “exchange information”

2017-03-24 Thread Krassimir Markov
Dear Arturo and FIS Colleagues, Let me remember that: The basic misunderstanding that non-living objects could “exchange information” leads to many principal theoretical as well as psychological faults. For instance, photon could exchange only energy and/or reflections ! Sorry for this n-th m

[Fis] I: Re: Is information truly important?

2017-03-24 Thread tozziart...@libero.it
Dear Lars-Göran, I prefer to use asap my second FIS bullet, therefore it will be my last FIS mail for the next days. First of all, in special relativity, an observer is NOT by definition a material object that can receive and store incoming energy from other objects. In special relativity

[Fis] Is information truly important?

2017-03-24 Thread tozziart...@libero.it
Dear Fisers, a big doubt... We know that the information of a 3D black hole is proportional to its 2D horizon, according to the Bekenstein-Hawking equations. However, an hypotetical observer traveling at light speed (who watches a black hole at rest) detects a very large black hole horizon, due t