Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Sungchul Ji
Hi FISers, If the "information periodic table" approach to Information Science is right, which was described on this list a few days ago, the following predictions may be made: (1) Just as there are a finite number of elements in the chemical periodic table that account for all the

[Fis] Neither Ghost Nor Machine: The emergence and nature of selves

2017-10-05 Thread Jeremy Sherman
Hi all, For 20 years I've collaborated with Terry Deacon on his approach to information. This week, my new book distilling it is published with Columbia University Press. *Neither Ghost Nor Machine: the emergence and nature of selves*

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Bob -- Your classification of information-related concepts: • Data are the pure and simple facts without any particular structure or organization, the basic atoms of information, • Information is structured data, which adds meaning to the data and gives it context and significance, • Knowledge

Re: [Fis] Fw: PRINCIPLES OF IS. The Pre-Science of Information

2017-10-05 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Dear all, I am in agreement with Joseph's suggestion that our discussions of the foundations of information could be understood as pre-science. Efforts such as the list of principles proposed by Pedro offer a useful focus of discussion for working toward a more solid "foundation" precisely

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Bob Logan
Dear Arturo - I enjoyed your expression of your opinion because of its directness and honesty even though I do not quite agree with everything you said. I enjoyed it because it provoked the following thoughts. Yes you are right there seems to be a variety of opinions as to just what

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re[2]: Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear FIS Colleagues, There is no problem with heretics in this list. They are very welcome as they make us think on our favorite ideas in a different way or even from an opposed angle. We must always maintain the scholarly tone, that's the only condition! (well, apart from the "two messages

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re[2]: Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread 钟义信
Dear friends,The debate on the definition of information is of significance because the definition of information is the real foundation of information science. It is noticed that many contravercies in information science either in the past or at present time are more or less related to the

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re[2]: Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Lars-Göran Johansson
Dear all It seems to me that the heat in the debate about the definition of the concept of Information is fuelled by deep metaphysical feelings: different people have different views about what is REALLY Information. Metaphysical debates can never be resolved. May I suggest that we agree on

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re[2]: Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Cari Tutti, non v'ha niente a questo mondo che non abbia una FORMA che è il risultato di un processo di TRAS-IN-FORM-AZIONE secondo il quale ogni cosa data o ogni data cosa prende FORMA in un dato tempo in cui si TRAS-IN-FORMA. aumentando o diminuendo il livello o il grado o la qualità della