[Fis] Principles of Information

2017-10-06 Thread Emanuel Diamant
Dear FISers, I have heartily welcomed Pedro's initiative to work out some principles of information definition quest. But the upsetting discussion unrolled around the issue pushes me to restrain my support for the Pedro's proposal. The problem (in my understanding) is that FIS discussants are

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-06 Thread Michel Godron
Dear colleagues In order to know the relations between living organisms and their environment, I use Brillouin's formula (and its fundamental thermodynamical signification) to compute the information contained in biological structures and the probability of events. It is written in french,

Re: [Fis] Fw: PRINCIPLES OF IS. The Pre-Science of Information

2017-10-06 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Terry and FIS colleagues, I think you make a good point. I was reminded on the problems my research group has found in the development of our "Sociotype project", cooperating with social science groups and psychologists. The lack of communication in between those closer to formal fields

Re: [Fis] Fw: TEN PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION, FROM YET ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. A Newer Kind of Science. Logic and Principle 4

2017-10-06 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Joseph and All, Just to make my point on “New Kind of Science” clear. I am not saying that we should attempt Wolfram’s New Kind of Science (NKS) applied to information studies. In the spirit of inclusiveness, thinking primarily about what NKS did achieve, instead of what it did not, I

[Fis] Fw: TEN PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION, FROM YET ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. A Newer Kind of Science. Logic and Principle 4

2017-10-06 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Gordana and Friends, In 2002, the cybernetician Stephen Wolfram published a massive book with the title, A New Kind of Science. For me, it was not: it was an attempt to explain the simplest, quasi-non-living structures of living systems by recourse to simple algorithms and a multitude of

[Fis] TEN PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION, FROM YET ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE

2017-10-06 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Colleagues, Following this interesting and enlightening discussion I have got several thoughts that I would like to share with you. First of all it is a great pleasure to read variety of contributions, deep thoughts and insights, profound questions as well. This list so very often