Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-23 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Mark, Soren, and colleagues, The easiest distinction is perhaps Descartes' one between res cogitans and res extensa as two different realities. Our knowledge in each case that things could have been different is not out there in the world as something seizable such as piece of wood.

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-23 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dai, I start down a road toward attempting to understand information by first understanding number and form. | || ||| | … Is a number a thing? Is 2 a thing? Cannot say that this 2, this || “is” two. Rather it partakes in being a couple. 2 is relational. We say that there are 2 signs in

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis - Can it be Improved?

2018-05-23 Thread Burgin, Mark
Dear Jerry, Joseph and all FISers, The title of my contribution is Logical Analysis but not Formal Logical Analysis. It means that I did not use any formal logic but thoroughly applied simple mundane logic, which is frequently used in everyday life. Sincerely, Mark On 5/18/2018 8:45

Re: [Fis] Is information physical? A logical analysis

2018-05-23 Thread Burgin, Mark
Dear Søren, You response perfectly supports my analysis. Indeed, for you only the Physical World is real. So, information has to by physical if it is real, or it cannot be real if it is not physical. Acceptance of a more advanced model of the World, which includes other realities, as it was