Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 577, Issue 31

2013-11-28 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
Dear Pedro,

Morris coined them, based on the trifold semiotic model of Peirce. As you
point, I don't think Ortega's ratiovitalim can be extended to life
altogether, since it is closely related to biography, history, personal
reason... Its social counterpart -as you know for sure- is 'historical
reason', to which he devoted a number of works. In biology, Ortega was in
any case very much alligned to Aexküll, who as well influenced the work
of many other philosophers of that time as Max Scheler, Heidegger,
Cassirer or Merleau-Ponty... Therefore such bio-semiotic perspective is not
alien at all to him, as can be seen all over his fruitful and beautiful
work, but is quite different to what he meant with ratiovitalism, which is
more related to Dilthey and the hermeneutical tradition.

Best regards,
J.M.


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 Dear FISers,

 In some way we are taking the discussion at the fringe of relevant
 fields ---communication studies, information systems, semiotics,
 representation theory, linguistics, etc. If we do not like the way
 communication is handled in itself, taken disconnected of the
 advancement of the life cycle, and formallyreconnected later on as
 pragmatics, social understanding, cultural dimension, etc. ---what could
 be the alternative? Philosophically I remember an essay of Ortega y
 Gasset on ratiovitalism, but I am not sure that his ideas can be
 extended into scientific thinking, at least not easily. Communication is
 a property or characteristic derived from the intrinsic openness of life
 (of the life cycle), both in terms of matter and energy and of
 anticipatory adjustment to signals from the environment. Signals do
 not participate in metabolic flows, they go different. Is life's
 arrangement of communication hierarchical? I do not think so, except in
 a trivial sense of organisms, organs, tissues, cells, organelles, etc.
 But the inner information flow goes in every conceivable direction top
 down, bottom up, laterally, etc. Perhaps the essential achievement of
 organic communication with the external has been pouring the
 environmental happenstances into the same channels of the inner
 self-production info flows and mixing them... Anyhow, this is clearly
 insufficient to make the info flow suggestion compete with those
 standard --anthropocentric-- categories of syntactic, semantic,
 pragmatic, etc. By the way, I cannot locate clearly the scholarly origin
 of those terms (widespread use in many realms, and accompanied by other
 similar terms).

 best ---Pedro

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León, SPAIN

Coordination of BITrum Research Group (http://bitrum.unileon.es/)
Coordination of Glossarium BITri (http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/)
Coordination of PRIMER initiative (http://primer.unileon.es)
Board of Directors of Science of Information Institute (SoII, Washington,
USA, http://www.soii.info/)
International Society for Information Studies (ISIS, Vienna,
http://www.is4is.org/)
Institut für Design Science (IDS, Munich, http://www.designscience.de/)
Bertalanffy Center for the Study of System Sciences (Vienna,
http://www.bcsss.org/)
Unified Theory of Information

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2013-11-15 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
  for the necessity of conversation, taken as exchange of information
  (DNA). Bacteria do it, either directly, or through viruses (the GSM
  of the bacterium).  Its main role is in the sped up of creating
  theories (the genome), and being able to refute them as much quickly
  (selection).
  Is there a first person notion associated with it? Probably. Hard to
  know.
 
  Best wishes,
 
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Hochschule München, Faculty of General and Interdisciplinary Studies, FK13
   Postal Address: Dachauerstr 100a, 80636 München, GERMANY
Universidad de León, Faculty of Education
   Postal address: Facultad de Educación, Campus de Vegazana s/n, 24071
León, SPAIN

Coordination of BITrum Research Group (http://bitrum.unileon.es/)
Coordination of Glossarium BITri (http://glossarium.bitrum.unileon.es/)
Coordination of PRIMER initiative (http://primer.unileon.es)
Board of Directors of Science of Information Institute (SoII, Washington,
USA, http://www.soii.info/)
International Society for Information Studies (ISIS, Vienna,
http://www.is4is.org/)
Institut für Design Science (IDS, Munich, http://www.designscience.de/)
Bertalanffy Center for the Study of System Sciences (Vienna,
http://www.bcsss.org/)
Unified Theory of Information Research Group (UTI, Austria,
http://www.uti.at/)
Editorial Boards of: TripleC Journal / International Review of Information
Ethics / Systems / Kybernetes

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Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 570, Issue 10

2013-04-16 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
Dear FISers,

In the past edition of DTMD Workshop (in 2011), Professor Zimmermann and
myself defended an approach in which information can be conceived from the
outset and starting from the most fundamental level of reality. We rely on
the physical approaches to conceal relativity and quantum theories in order
to explain how information and meaning can be understood from the most
elemental level, though qualitatively evolving through the hierarchy of
complexity.

As we argue in our articles: energy and matter can be distinguished in
terms of potentiality and actuality respectively (by the way a valuable
distinction advanced by Weizsäcker), as well as Information and Structure.
The former set concerns the possibility/actuality of change; the second the
possibility/actuality to select changes. This set of concepts together with
a generalised concept of autonomous agency (in the sense of Stuart
Kauffman) enable us to consider the evolution of meaning throughout the
ladder of complexity and to devise the regressive path in which reality is
acknowledged (with significant difference at each level complexity). In the
articles published in Information we propose a review of Floridi's General
Definition of Information (GDI) as to conceal it with our (always evolving
and fallible) scientific knowledge about the structure of the world. The
first part we delve in the progressive perspective:
http://www.mdpi.com/2078-2489/3/3/472
The second part (which deals with the regressive perspective and related to
the eventual synergies of our approach with respect to other approaches in
the converging fields of information, meaning, computation and
communication) is to be published in the coming weeks.
In the article recently published in the special issue of TripleC devoted
to DTMD2011 we deploy both perspectives -in a more condensed manner-:
http://triple-c.at/index.php/tripleC/article/view/334
More contributions done delving in different aspects of the same approach
can be accessed in BITrum's blog of contributions in English:
http://bitrumcontributions.wordpress.com/
BITrum's blog of contributions in Spanish:
http://bitrum.wordpress.com/

Best wishes,
J.M.


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 Dear Xueshan,

 Another interesting source for Bateson's DTMD is in 'Angels Fear:
 towards an epistemiology of the sacred' (1988):

 'That which gets from territory to map is news of difference, and at
 that point I recognized that news of difference was a synonym for
 information' (http://www.oikos.org/angelsfear.htm#introduction [1] )

 Reading from James Gleik's book 'The Information' recently and his
 description of the seminal Macy's Conferencesof 1941 it would seem
 that Shannon Wiener and Bateson were coming from the same new idea of
 'information' but with different formulations. Mackay's formal
 approach (in-form-ation) is closer to the historical/philosophical
 concept inherited from Plato and 

Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 568, Issue 6

2013-02-09 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
Dear FISers:

The relation between science and philosophy deeply relies on whether the
related philosophy is understood as philosophia-prima (in the sense of
Aristotle) or as philosophia-ultima (in the sense of Theunissen). If we
rely on the latter is needless establishing a clear boundary; philosophy
must be regarded as a science...

We argued on this distinction in relation to Floridi's approach, in a
couple of publications collected in BITagora about one year ago:
http://bitrumagora.wordpress.com/2011/10/23/the-philosophy-of-information-floridi-lays-down-foundations-of-the-new-field/
http://bitrumagora.wordpress.com/2011/11/29/rainer-zimmerman/

Kind regads,
J.M.

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 Dear FIS Colleagues,

 The formation of the the Society for the Philosophy of Information at the
 University of Hertfordshire is announced in the link in John's note. It
 includes the announcement and Call for Papers of the International
 Conference on the Philosophy of Information to be held in Xi'An, China in
 October, 2013, sponsored by both the above Society, led by Professor
 Luciano Floridi and the Institute for the Philosophy of Information in
 Xi'An under the direction of Professor Wu Kun.

 This increased activity in the area of the philosophy of information
 (another major Workshop is planned this Spring) raises the issue of the
 relation between the science and philosophy of information as well as of
 the philosophy of science. I am aware of and agree with the position
 expressed by Pedro that information science in the FIS framework should
 emphasize scientific research in the sense of knowledge that is
 quantifiable and/or provable. However, I do not believe that either he or
 others of you intend to exclude rigorous qualitative knowledge, especially
 as it concerns the dual nature of information.

 The ubiquitous presence of information in all disciplines, as emphasized
 by Wu, suggests an alternative relation linking philosophy, science and
 information that is NOT one of simple hierarchical inclusion or possession
 (of). One possibility is to say that it is information that links
 philosophy and science, but this formulation perhaps fails to recognize the
 general properties of the latter two.

 Another possibility is to say that each of the three nominally independent
 disciplines are not independent, but that each provides a dynamic
 ontological and epistemological link to the other two, more or less strong
 or actual depending on the extent to which one wishes to emphasize
 certain aspects of knowledge.

 I look forward to your comments regarding the pros and cons of such a
 conception. Thank you.

 Best wishes,

 Joseph





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Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 556, Issue 10

2011-12-09 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
Dear all,

I am breaking my silence, contained because I cannot cope with the demands
of activities going around, though I should have said something to the
ongoing discussion since for a couple of years we have been promoting this
very idea from the domusBITae initiative. About this initiative -which is
opened to further collaborations-, I referred to in FIS2010 (Beijin)... The
initiative (for which the site
stylusBITaehttp://stylusbitae.bitrum.unileon.es/ has
been running for 2 years) is aimed at
bridging across the many research communities devoted to the broad field
of information studies and social stakeholders in order to enable an
interdisciplinary and overarching understanding of information in all its
meaningful aspects.
We got a interim support from the Spanish Ministry of Science and are
applying for support of the European Commission in a couple of support
programmes -though as you may know just the application is a long-term run
we started 13 Months ago-. Particularly all over 2011, we have increased
the weight of educational orientation, as it can be seen in the website. We
are indeed planning to apply to the Lifelong Learning Programme of the EC
next February proposing teaching on information and systems as vehicles for
a interdisciplinary training. One of the priorities pointed by the EC in
several strategic domains (for instance trust in the information society
-trustis as they term it) concerns interdisciplinary approach of complex
problems, whereas there is no particular training in interdisciplinary
competences -or it is clearly not main-stream. That is what we will try to
offer... The lectures I have been giving this year in Munich (Utopias,
dystopias and hopes of the information society, Information: bridge
between objects and subjects and A General Understanding of Information)
at the Faculty of Interdisciplinary Studies are -so to say- essays in this
direction (s. research stay at
HMhttp://en.bitrum.unileon.es/3-activities/research-stay/professorial-stay-at-the-hm
).

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Dear all,
It is possible find some useful ideas to build multi-inter-trans
 disciplinary approaches in last ?closing statement? of Ubiquity
 Symposium: What is Computation?
What Have We Said About Computation? [1]
If you are interested in all papers of this ACM Ubiquity Symposium:
http://ubiquity.acm.org/symposia.cfm [2]
Sincerely,
Walter Riofrio


Walter Riofrio
  Researcher; Complex Thought Institute Edgar Morin ? University
 Ricardo Palma, Lima-Peru
  Chercheur Associé; Institut des Systèmes Complexes ? Paris
 Île-de-France (ISC-PIF)
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  On jue 08/12/11 06:25 , John Collier colli...@ukzn.ac.za sent:
   Good to see that fis perspectives are used in teaching. I use
 information ideas fundamentally in our second year Cognitive Science
 course, and also in some postgrad courses I teach.
  John
  At 03:03 PM 2011/12/07, Pedro C. Marijuan wrote:
  Thanks a lot, Gordana. It is a very good idea. Unfortunately I could
 not participate in the opening of the session,  well, at least I can
 say now that I had the experience of teaching for Engineering graduate
 students two neatly informational (FIS) disciplines. One of them,
 Bioinformation: informational analysis of living systems; and the
 other Science, Technology and Society: an introduction to the
 informational history of societies.  Both of them in Spanish. They
 were very successful, particularly the latter. The FIS perspective is
 ideal not only for breaking down on impossible topics (our familiar
 demons) but also for promoting a new, highly original way of analysis
 --of knolweldge recombination processes-- on topics of our time and of
 the most contentious past.
  missing a lot the 

Re: [Fis] fis Digest, Vol 530, Issue 1

2009-10-09 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
Ahí va el primer número del volumen 530 de FIS, con la propuesta de
Pedro. Sin preambulos te mando a continuación los siguientes.

Muchas gracias por tu escucha, tu interés y tu ayuda. Un fuerte abrazo, Joe.

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   2. Re: Definition of Knowledge? (ssal...@binghamton.edu)
   3. Re: Definition of Knowledge? (Rafael Capurro)


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 Dear FISers,

 I was asked several months ago, in the context of the Leon conference
 (BITrum  interdisciplinary elucidation of the information concept, last
 June) to participate in the definition of some info-related concepts.
 Knowledge was one of them (if I am not wrong). After some trials I
 have realized that the task is outside the bounds of my competence
 --except in a rather trivial, anthropomorphic sense, one gets caught in
 regressions almost inevitably... Maybe one has to take care
 simultaneously of the whole lot of basic characteristics pertaining to
 informational entities (concepts included...). Well, sorry to the Leon
 colleagues that I have failed to fulfill the compromise, but I think
 there is interesting discussion to be advanced  behind it.

 best

 Pedro

 PS. We are starting the firs steps in the neurodynamic central theory
 proyect (NCT). Interested parties might have openings yet, contact Fivos
 Panetsos (fivos.panet...@opt.ucm.es) and me (marij...@unizar.es).

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 Pedro -- I think one point of clarity might be raised here.  Is the concern  
 with

 knowing how

 or with

 knowing that?

 The difference can be appreciated when considering that we may know how to 
 ride
 a bicycle, but we could not explain, or write down, how we do it.

 STAN


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 dear colleagues,

 greetigs from japan

 on knowledge  that, than etc. please take a look at this contribution:

 http://www.capurro.de/skepsis.html

 kind regards

 rafael


 Dear FISers,

 I was asked several months ago, in the context of the Leon conference
 (BITrum  interdisciplinary elucidation of the information concept, last
 June) to participate in the definition of some info-related concepts.
 Knowledge was one of them (if I am not wrong). After some trials I
 have realized that the task is outside the bounds of my competence
 --except in a rather trivial, anthropomorphic sense, one gets caught in
 regressions almost inevitably... Maybe one has to take care
 simultaneously of the whole lot of basic characteristics pertaining to
 informational entities (concepts included...). Well, sorry to the Leon
 colleagues that I have failed to fulfill the compromise, but I think
 there is interesting discussion to be advanced  behind it.

 best

 Pedro

 PS. We are starting the firs steps in the neurodynamic central theory
 proyect (NCT). Interested parties might have openings yet, contact Fivos
 Panetsos (fivos.panet...@opt.ucm.es) and me (marij...@unizar.es).

 --

 -
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 Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
 Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
 Avda. Gómez Laguna, 25, Pl. 11ª
 

[Fis] Fw: Definition of Knowledge? (FIS Digest, Vol 530, Issue 1)

2009-10-06 Thread José María Díaz Nafría
-- Mensaje reenviado --
De: Rafael Capurro raf...@capurro.de
Fecha: 6 de octubre de 2009 02:28
Asunto: Re: [Fis] Definition of Knowledge? (FIS Digest, Vol 530, Issue 1)
Para: José María Díaz Nafría jnaf...@uax.es


dear jose maria and fis colleagues,

greetings from japan

I very much agree with pedro's suggestions about naturalizing the
concept of knowledge i.e. of not reducing it to the propositional
traditional (platonic and partly arisotelian) concept (as suggested
also by floridi building a hierarchy where the top is propositional
scientific knowledge). the concept of implicit knowldge or
fore-knowledge in hermeneutic terms is a key issue that links in some
way the 'typical' human propositional knowledge with knowledged in
non-human agents. we should diversify our concepts and avoid
hierarchical and dogmatic human-centered views also through a classic
connection of data becoming information becoming knowledge, where
'becoming' is some kind of black box that explains nothing.

kind regards

rafael




Zitat von José María Díaz Nafría jnaf...@uax.es:

 Dear FIS colleagues:

 I apologize for being so quiet, considering the interesting topics
 arisen with the occasion of our proposal to the COST open call of past
 March, which we thank once again. This proposal as revisited by FIS
 came to coincide in time with a call for themes proposal by the
 European Science Foundation (Eurocores Theme Proposal), which we also
 presented with a short timing. We may not succeed in the first
 attempt, but anyhow it aims at opening a new scientific topic in the
 ESF. If the proposed theme were selected, new projects in the
 delimited field (well fitted to FIS interests) from any European state
 could be presented to joint the research network. I say that, to
 justify our silence in the FIS arena, while we were actually working
 on it, although in the background. Afterwards, it was too late to
 answer, when already other issues were under discussion… To keep on
 the argument thread of our COST essays: we were not among the few
 selected proposals, but were given reasons to hope and reworked the
 proposal and applied again one week ago. About the theme proposal for
 Eurocores, we do not have any evaluation yet.

 Even if I am not answering straight forward Pedro’s words, I feel that
 we should let FISers know our efforts in finding new cooperative
 research scenarios within the realm of FIS interests. Now taking back
 Pedro’s proposal of discussion about knowledge: on the one hand, I
 cordially thank Pedro’s initiative of bringing to this outstanding
 stage a part of our elucidation; on the other hand, before saying
 something about the topic, I feel the need to set the context were the
 strive for this definition take place, which also implies giving a
 general idea about BITrum project (see
 http://www.unileon.es/congresos/bitrum/T_Bitrum_presentation.htm),
 where we pursue an interdisciplinary approach to the information
 concept from a maximally open perspective, aiming at the mutual
 understanding of all the concerned points of view. As you may see in
 the given link, one of the main means to get such a mutual
 understanding is a glossary of concepts, metaphors, theories and
 problems concerning information. At the first stage, it should help in
 the definition of working teams, while in following stages it may
 become an arena of discussion about particular issues, a reference of
 specific themes and crystallization of both research (within working
 teams) and consensus.
 Hence, the elucidation itself will be somehow reflected in this
 glossary, which edition has already started and its first public
 version -although very incomplete- will see the light at the end of
 this year.

 Although BITrum members are committed to feed the glossary, any
 interested author is wellcomed to contribute. The managing schema of
 the glossary includes: 1) a coordination board for glossary edition;
 2) an editor per article, who takes over the integration of every
 contribution to such voice in a non redundant and rather systematic
 article; 3) any other may contribute, as author or coauthor, with
 entries, which will be afterwards integrated by the editor in an
 article.
 As an example, Pedro is editor of the voices: “Action-perception
 cycle”; “Cognit”; “Foundations of Information Science”; “Knowledge
 recombination”. Other FISers, like Rafael Capurro, Wolfgang
 Hofkirchner or Peter Fleissner also contribute as editors of other
 voices.

 After having given a general picture of the glossary and the projects
 where it is a main axis, I feel free to go to the settled discussion
 about knowledge, in which I contributed with the following entry to
 the voice (I do not bring the other two entries to this voice, since
 they are still in Spanish):

 * * * KNOWLEDGE * * *
 NOTE: “[voice]” denotes that such voice is developed among glossary voices.

 From the most viewpoints regarding information and knowledge