Re: [Fis] Info Science Comments

2009-12-04 Thread ssalthe
Robin said: To me this issue is very simple: the meaning of information to a receiving system is the effect on the system of the reception of the information. This makes meaning relative, but I believe that's both as it should be, and quite easily understood: I've very recently been studying

Re: [Fis] Information states

2009-11-14 Thread ssalthe
While not suggesting a discussion on this, I note that John says -- information and the interpretation of information are different from each other I think this is not as clear cut as that. Beginning all the way back to von Uexkull's Theoretical Biology, the constructivist perspective takes

[Fis] Fwd: Re: The Assymetry of Information

2009-11-12 Thread ssalthe
---BeginMessage--- Joseph -- This sounds like a case for Game Theory, a topic that I find too tedious to explore myself! More 'realistically', I think that personality traits decide such things. In my case, I would gradually tend to lean in one direction, and this leaning will grow until

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: FW: Definition of Knowledge] from Bill Hall

2009-10-14 Thread ssalthe
Loet -- Dear Bill and colleagues, The distinction between agents evolving or communications can be made without accepting Luhmann's more far-reaching claims. It enables us to understand why cultural phenomena based on interhuman communications exhibit a dynamic so differently from biological

Re: [Fis] FW: Fw: Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-07 Thread ssalthe
Loet, Karl, Steven -- S: The difference between us and animals is basically language. S: Why not 'check out' 'Biosemiotics'? STAN Dear Stan, I don't understand the bio in this. If we distinguish between two systems of reference for knowledge -- discursive knowledge to be

Re: [Fis] Definition of Knowledge?

2009-10-02 Thread ssalthe
Pedro -- OK Stan, but can you apply those propositional (human) modifications also to bacteria, fish, (human) enterprise or institution, society otherwise I am affraid you move only in the anthropocentric realm. best ---Pedro We can certainly note that 'knowing that' is a linguistic