Meaning is a social function (G.H.Mead). The meaning can be simply identifying by looking what habits it produces (C.S.Peirce), the meaning of a word is its use (late Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations). There remains no question about "meaning" so far. This problem is finally solved.
Best Guenther Am 20.06.2015 um 22:33 schrieb Jerry LR Chandler: > List: > > My opinions categorically reject the shallow proposition below which ignores > the foundational logic. > > The biological sciences focus on life itself. > The scientific foundation of biological information is included under the > notion of Foundation of Information Science. > > The adjectives "cognitive" and "computational" and "linguistic" do not > influence the meaning the foundation of the science, they are merely > descriptors of sub-aspects of the science or incomplete perspectives of > biology. > > The post introduces the proposition that these three adjectives are not even > modifiers of the meaning of biology, mere metaphors, each of which can carry > a vast array of meanings. > > Personally, I am rather fond of elephants and find this slight of elephants, > one of mother nature's greatest achievements, unwarranted. > > Cheers > > Jerry > > > On Jun 19, 2015, at 7:52 PM, howlbl...@aol.com wrote: > >> re: cognitive biology vs computational biology. >> >> may i suggest that you add yet one more approach to the list: linguistic >> biology. per the work of Guenther Witzany. also reflected in my book The >> God Problem: How a Godless Cosmos Creates. >> >> each approach uses a helpful metaphor. no one approach sees the elephant in >> its entirety. so please let us use all three. >> >> with oomph--howard >> >> ---------------------- >> Howard Bloom >> Howardbloom.net >> Author of: The Lucifer Principle: A Scientific Expedition Into the Forces of >> History ("mesmerizing"-The Washington Post), >> Global Brain: The Evolution of Mass Mind From The Big Bang to the 21st >> Century ("reassuring and sobering"-The New Yorker), >> The Genius of the Beast: A Radical Re-Vision of Capitalism ("A tremendously >> enjoyable book." James Fallows, National Correspondent, The Atlantic), >> The God Problem: How A Godless Cosmos Creates("Bloom's argument will rock >> your world." Barbara Ehrenreich), >> How I Accidentally Started the Sixties (“Wow! Whew! Wild! Wonderful!” >> Timothy Leary), and >> The Mohammed Code (“A terrifying book…the best book I’ve read on Islam.” >> David Swindle, PJ Media). >> Former Core Faculty Member, The Graduate Institute; Former Visiting >> Scholar-Graduate Psychology Department, New York University >> Founder: International Paleopsychology Project. Founder: The Group Selection >> Squad; Founder, Space Development Steering Committee. Board Member and >> Member Of Board Of Governors, National Space Society. Founding Board Member: >> Epic of Evolution Society. Founding Board Member, The Darwin Project. >> Founder: The Big Bang Tango Media Lab. Member: New York Academy of Sciences, >> American Association for the Advancement of Science, American Psychological >> Society, Academy of Political Science, Human Behavior and Evolution Society, >> International Society for Human Ethology. Scientific Advisory Board Member, >> Lifeboat Foundation. Advisory Board Member, The Buffalo Film Festival. >> Editorial board member, The Journal of Space Philosophy. >> >> In a message dated 6/19/2015 9:22:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> emanl....@gmail.com writes: >> >> >> Dear Jerry, >> >> >> >> Thank you for responding to my post. >> >> Thank you very much for an attempt to read and to understand my Vienna >> Symposium related publications. >> >> >> >> I apologize for a delay in my response – I was trying to read and to >> understand your papers (“Algebraic Biology” and “Physical Foundations of >> Organic Mathematics”). Unfortunately, I did not understand much of what you >> are talking there (about biological computations). >> >> Never mind, it is my fault, not yours. To my shame, I often also do not >> understand what other people on the forum are writing too. >> >> >> >> As to me, I think (and write) that the era of a computational approach to >> science and nature studies is over and we are gradually replacing it with a >> cognitive approach. (Computational biology, Computational ecology, >> Computational neuroscience, Computational genomics, Computational chemistry, >> Computational endocrinology, Computational intelligence, Computational >> linguistics and so on are now being replaced with Cognitive biology, >> Cognitive ecology, Cognitive neuroscience, Cognitive genomics, Cognitive >> endocrinology, Cognitive intelligence, Cognitive linguistics, and even >> Cognitive computing). >> >> >> >> By definition, computational approaches imply intensive data processing, >> while Cognitive approaches imply dedicated information processing. What is >> the difference? Unfortunately, FIS forum does not dwell on this issue. >> >> >> >> I was pleased to hear from Prof. Kun Wu (at his opening lecture in Vienna) >> that “By means of the reformation, all scientific and philosophical domains >> are facing an integrative trend of paradigm reform, which I name as >> “informationalization of science”, (The quotation is from one of his >> presentation slides). >> >> >> >> As you can see, my assertions are very close to what Prof. Kun Wu claims, >> but far from what you (and other mainstream FIS contributors) obey and >> adhere to. >> >> >> >> I am a newcomer to FIS and I do not intend to preach in the others’ temple. >> But Prof. Kun Wu is one of the founding fathers of the Philosophy of >> Information. Therefore, it would be wise for you to be in an agreement with >> his postulates. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Emanuel Diamant. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:jerry_lr_chand...@me.com] >> Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 8:42 PM >> To: Emanuel Diamant >> Subject: Re: [Fis] FIS newcomer >> >> >> >> Dear Emanuel: >> >> >> >> Thanks for posting your views on Research Gate. >> >> >> >> Interesting perspective, but... the essence of biology / biological >> computation are empirical observations that are highly irregular in nature. >> One must separate the concepts of structures from functions in the languages >> of chemistry and biology. >> >> >> >> You may wish to look at the concepts of languages from your perspectives. >> >> >> >> Several of my online available papers will provide more substance for these >> comments. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> >> >> jerry >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 15, 2015, at 11:29 AM, Emanuel Diamant wrote: >> >> >> >> >> Dear FISlists, >> >> >> >> I am a newcomer to the FIS discussion table. The debate that is going on in >> your list-exchange is very interesting to me, but frankly, for the most of >> the time, I only guess about what you are talking – my vocabulary and my >> notions of Information are quite different from yours. Nevertheless, I would >> like to add my voice to the ongoing discourse – I would like to direct you >> to my page on the Research Gate >> (https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Emanuel_Diamant) to see my uploads >> from the last IS4IS Vienna Conference. Maybe you will find them interesting. >> >> >> >> Best regards, >> >> Emanuel Diamant. >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fis mailing list >> Fis@listas.unizar.es >> http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Fis mailing list >> Fis@listas.unizar.es >> http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis
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