Re: [Fis] A MATHEMATICAL APPROACH TO BIOLOGICAL ISSUES

2018-02-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
ifully visualised and analysable models: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/NBT07.pdf Best wishes, Gordana __ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Department of Computer Science and Engineering Chalmers Univ

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Hello Terry, Sung, FIS colleagues There is a notion of “body language”. Perhaps it might be possible to develop a general theory of language that can take into account bacteria and dogs (according to Nature http://www.nature.com/news/dogs-can-tell-when-praise-is-sincere-1.20514) as well as

Re: [Fis] The unification of the theories of information based on the cateogry theory

2018-02-07 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
In agreement with Sung I see the value of “language metaphor" that can be applied to physical objects when they are used for communication. Description of “chemical language” used by bacteria can be found e.g. here http://genesdev.cshlp.org/content/15/12/1468.full.pdfStephan and number of other

Re: [Fis] some notes

2017-11-19 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Francesco, Thank you so much for your enlightening post on logic that is rising the topic one level up. You refer to Hegel who recognised complementary relationship between quality, quantity and their synthesis – measure, which is very central for the current discussion. I made English

Re: [Fis] R: Re: some notes - on the nature of science and communication

2017-11-18 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear All, In the discussion about the nature of science and the role of quantitative and qualitative methods I would like to add the following statement: Logic is the science of rational thinking or reasoning. http://www.math-inst.hu/~nemeti/whatislogic.html Logic is not a quantitative science.

Re: [Fis] INVITATION TO WORLD SCIENTIFIC VOLUME ON THE STUDY OF INFORMATION

2017-11-05 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Date: Monday, 6 November 2017 at 05:43 To: 'Gordana Dodig Crnkovic' <gordana.dodig-crnko...@chalmers.se<mailto:gordana.dodig-crnko...@chalmers.se>> Cc: "fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>" <fis@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es&

Re: [Fis] What is ³Agent²?

2017-10-24 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
intrinsic tendencies (what are >they?) is symmetry. Is agency a principle of conservation which >unfolds the symmetry between conserved and non-conserved dimensions? >That means we are in a symmetry: "a pattern that connects" - to quote >Bateson. > >Personally, I find th

Re: [Fis] What is ³Agent²?

2017-10-20 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
__ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Department of Computer Science and Engineering Chalmers University of Technology School of Innovation, Design and Engineering, Mälardalen University http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/ General Chair of is4si summit 2017 http://is4si-2017.org<h

Re: [Fis] Fw: TEN PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION, FROM YET ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE. A Newer Kind of Science. Logic and Principle 4

2017-10-06 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
amended to read as follows: 4. Information flows are essential organizers of life's self-and hetero-production processes--anticipating, shaping, and mixing up with the accompanying energy flows. These processes follow a non-binary, non-truth-functional logic. Criticisms welcome. Best w

[Fis] TEN PRINCIPLES OF INFORMATION, FROM YET ANOTHER PERSPECTIVE

2017-10-06 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
scientific-philosophical practice and for social governance. __ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Department of Computer Science and Engineering Chalmers University of Technology School of Innovation, Design and Engineering, Mälardalen Uni

[Fis] Invitation to IS4SI summit 12-16 June, Gothenburg, Sweden

2017-01-30 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
dana for IS4SI organisation _____ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Vice Dean of Graduate Education Department of Applied IT Chalmers University of Technology & University of Gothenburg, Sweden http://www.ait.gu.se/kon

[Fis] What if consciousness is an Euclidean n-space?

2016-11-26 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
? With best wishes, Gordana _ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Vice Dean of Graduate Education Department of Applied IT Chalmers University of Technology & University of Gothenburg, Sweden http://www.ait.gu.se/kontakt

[Fis] Intelligence Science in Chengdu 2016, web page

2016-11-12 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
://www.ait.gu.se/kontaktaoss/personal/gordana-dodig-crnkovic/ http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/ http://is4si-2017.org/ From: Fis <fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es<mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es>> on behalf of PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es<mailto:pcmarij

Re: [Fis] _ DISCUSSION SESSION: INFOBIOSEMIOTICS

2016-04-02 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Relation to Meaning<http://www.mdpi.com/journal/information/special_issues/information_meaning/>, R. Logan Ed., 2012 3(2), 204-218 Best, Gordana ________ Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Vice Dean of Graduate Education D

[Fis] Miracles and Natural Order Fis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 24

2016-02-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
To me the miracle is not so much order, as it is relation, and thus as Loet says "order is always constructed (by us)"- but the miracle is the very existence of anything (us, the rest of the universe). Why there is something rather than nothing (that would be much simpler)? To me miracle is how

[Fis] THE NEW YEAR ESSAY AND FOUR GREAT SCIENTIFIC DOMAINS Fis Digest, Vol 10, Issue 11

2015-01-18 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Sensing: Cell-to-Cell Communication in Bacteria. Annual Review of Cell and Developmental Biology, 21, 319–346. http://www.ait.gu.se/kontaktaoss/personal/gordana-dodig-crnkovic http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/ From: Jeremy Sherman mindreadersdiction...@gmail.commailto:mindreadersdiction

Re: [Fis] Neuroinformation?

2014-12-03 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
=460437900CFTOKEN=86096657__ac m__=1417615447_3795fbeab8c8723f1f2fb7884c2936b2 With best regards, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Professor of Computer Science Chalmers University of Technology University of Gothenburg, Sweden http

Re: [Fis] The Interaction Man Cognitive Informatics

2014-02-01 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
John, Ideas from the following article may also be of interest in this context: Yingxu Wang (2003) On Cognitive Informatics, Brain and Mind, Volume 4, Issue 2, pp 151-167 http://www2.enel.ucalgary.ca/IJCINI/ICfCI/JBM-Vol4-No2-CI.pdf All the best, Gordana From: John Collier

[Fis] Frequentists, Bayesians and Jaynesians - assumptions and consequentces

2014-01-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear colleagues, Encouraged by your recent exchanges, which show that the topic of Hans' New Year Lecture is far from exhausted, I would like to think a bit more on the fundamental change from Frequentist to Bayesian statistics. Hans writes: “On the one hand each individual agent assembles the

Re: [Fis] reply to Loet

2013-11-02 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Could it possibly be imagined as a circular motion (bottom-up--top-down—and-back-again)? Just a thought. All the best, Gordana http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/%7Egdc/ From: Loet Leydesdorff l...@leydesdorff.netmailto:l...@leydesdorff.net Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013

Re: [Fis] reply to Loet, Stan, Joseph

2013-11-02 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
the best, Gordana http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/%7Egdc/ From: Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.chmailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Reply-To: Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.chmailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Date: Saturday, November 2, 2013 5:40 PM To: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic

Re: [Fis] Madrid Meeting

2013-09-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
@listas.unizar.esmailto:fis@listas.unizar.es, Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.esmailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.semailto:gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.se, Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.chmailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Subject: Madrid Meeting Hope

Re: [Fis] [ITHEA ISS] Computer Science Open Educational Resources Portal

2013-08-30 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.esmailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es, Krassimir Kostadinov Markov i...@foibg.commailto:i...@foibg.com, John Collier colli...@ukzn.ac.zamailto:colli...@ukzn.ac.za, Joseph Brenner joe.bren...@bluewin.chmailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic gordana.dodig-crnko

[Fis] Natural Philosophy? -- RE: [Fwd: SV: Science, Philosophy and Information. An Alternative Relation] S.Brier

2013-02-11 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear colleagues, Could it be so that Philosophy of Statistical Mechanics does not make much sense without Philosophy of Cognition and philosophy of the rest? Could it be so that what we need is Natural Philosophy as it was before it has fallen apart into specialist sciences? With best

Re: [Fis] [Fwd: Fw: dark matter]--J.Brenner

2013-01-03 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Gyorgy, Pedro, Stan, Joe, Karl, Igor, and other FIS colleagues, With thankfulness for all of your enlightening comments which strengthen my feeling that there is a lot of exciting work in front of us, and that we witness all but the end of science, I wish you all A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR 2013!

Re: [Fis] The Information Flow

2012-11-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Joseph and FIS colleagues, I will not argue here for or against computationalism (digital mechanism), because I do not understand how complex biological, cognitive and social processes can be computable, if no algorithm can be written for them. I speak of the processes themselves, not

Re: [Fis] Stephen Wolfram discussing his ANKS in Reedit this Monday

2012-05-15 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
[mailto:u...@umces.edu] Sent: den 15 maj 2012 15:36 To: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic Cc: Bruno Marchal; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Stephen Wolfram discussing his ANKS in Reedit this Monday Quoting Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.se: 2. Whatever changes in the states

Re: [Fis] Stephen Wolfram discussing his ANKS in Reedit this Monday

2012-05-12 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Bruno and FIS colleagues, Here are my three comments on the current discussion: (1) It seems to me that one thing should be taken into account: computationalism is not a monolithic body of theory, and old approaches should not be mixed with the current ones. Here is what Matthias Scheutz

[Fis] POSTS ON TERRY' S BOOK - PRESENTED BY DEACON

2012-05-02 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Hector, This might be a good way, Terry Deacon presenting his book: http://fora.tv/2012/04/18/Incomplete_Nature_How_Mind_Emerged_From_Matter What I find fascinating with this book is the whole dynamical framework, from thermodynamics, to morphodynamics and teleodynamics. See also:

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Pedro and FIS colleagues, When connecting information to physics, I believe you may like the following view, from the abstract of an invited article for a special issue of the journal Information on Information and Energy/Matter (currently in review): INFORMATION PHYSICS—TOWARDS A NEW

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-03-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Kevin and FIS, Searching for Andrei's articles, I found http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4952.pdf and in the abstract there is a claim: Therefore, mental states, during perception cognition of ambiguous figures, follow quantum mechanics. I am not an expert by any means but I

Re: [Fis] Common Ground - Discussion of Information Science Education

2011-12-10 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Marcin, To me the idea about FIS web page with resources for teaching about Foundations of Information is a right step forward. That is also a way for the community as a whole to become more visible and formally established, and a means to plant new ideas into generations of future

[Fis] The State of the Art - Discussion of Information Science Education

2011-12-06 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Hi All, One way of looking at the question of curriculum would be from the point of view of what already exists of education in the Foundations of Information. Are there any courses which might be a part of such a curriculum? To start with I can tell about the course I have, which does not

Re: [Fis] Discussion of Information Science Education

2011-12-03 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
...@aiu.ac.jp Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Associate Professor Head of the Computer Science and Networks Department School of Innovation, Design and Engineering Mälardalen University Sweden http://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/ Organizer of the Symposium on Natural/Unconventional Computing, the Turing Centenary

Re: [Fis] meaningful inforamtion

2011-07-20 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Hello FIS, On mentioning of Braitenberg’s book “Information - der Geist in der Natur”, Søren Brier made me aware of an older work in a similar spirit - Danish physicist’s Hans Christian Ørsted’s (1777-1851) “The soul in nature”, here digitalized by Google:

Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering Principles

2011-04-01 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Stan, Ø The key is whether the trait involved can be modeled; on these grounds it has not yet been shown that 'qualia' can be generalized beyond the human experience, yet even a child can see, for example, that a mother hen is very unhappy when her chicks are threatened. Being a

Re: [Fis] Hannam's Contentious Postulate. The Peircean Mirror

2011-03-22 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
this list is a good example of living philosophers talking with living biologists and other living FISers which makes it much more exciting and difficult. Best regards, Gordana From: joe.bren...@bluewin.ch [mailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch] Sent: den 22 mars 2011 21:08 To: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic; Loet

Re: [Fis] On Stan's reply to Gavin

2011-02-01 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
are claiming. It seems to me, given spatiotemporal distance big enough, one does not see such phenomena which generate/destroy information. Physics builds on laws of conservation. Best, Gordana Dr Dr Gordana Dodig Crnkovic, Associate Professor

Re: [Fis] Closing Comments?

2010-12-20 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Hello FIS colleagues, I like Igor's suggestion: “Information is heterogeneity, stable for some definite time”. A simpler general version is Bateson's: Information is the difference that makes the difference Best wishes, Gordana Gordana Dodig

Re: [Fis] Fw: INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-15 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
, 2010 at 5:28 PM, Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic gordana.dodig-crnko...@mdh.se wrote: I suppose semioticians are interested in an individual human’s sense-making in a context of human society. Or perhaps a social animal’s sense making. What I think about is how life forms organize to produce increasingly

Re: [Fis] INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION (by Y.X.Zhong)

2010-11-13 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Colleagues, Relating information with intelligence seems to me important for several reasons. I will try to suggest that intelligence might be a good conceptual tool if we want to anchor our understanding of information and knowledge in the natural world. Yixin mentions the problem of

Re: [Fis] Revisiting the Fluctuon Model

2010-09-25 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear all, Regarding the very interesting discussion of it from bit and vice versa. Usually each level of information processing (semantic, algorithmic, implementational) presupposes some it in which bit is implemented. In computing, recursions must have a bottom. Could it be the case that on

Re: [Fis] Revisiting the Fluctuon Model

2010-09-25 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
. Best, Gordana Best wishes, Gordana From: Rafael Capurro [mailto:raf...@capurro.de] Sent: den 25 september 2010 11:55 To: Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic Cc: Loet Leydesdorff; 'Joseph Brenner'; 'Stanley N Salthe'; fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Revisiting the Fluctuon Model dear Gordana just

Re: [Fis] Emerging Synthesis?

2009-01-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Loet, I agree with you. The goal is not to reduce everything to physics and to stay at elementary particle level. But the good thing is to be able to go down to elementary particle level with the same principle. How to build up understanding of the whole architecture of existing things,

Re: [Fis] Emerging Synthesis?

2009-01-15 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
that are exchanged in particle physics are information carriers (or messages if one so will). Best regards, Gordana Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic Associate Professor Mälardalen University Sweden School of Innovation, Design

Re: [Fis] The Identity of Ethics and Integrity

2006-05-12 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
d in different value systems and at different levels of granularity. Best, Gordana Dodig Crnkovic http://www.idt.mdh.se/personal/gdc/ James N Rose wrote: I would like to challenge this as a category error. Integrity does not have to be linked with ethics or morals. A cannibal who rem