[Fis] TOWARDS A NEW SESSION

[Pedro C. Marijuan]

Dear FIS Colleagues,

A very interesting discussion theme has been proposed by Mark Burgin 
--he will post at his early convenience.
Thanks are due to Alberto for his "dataism" piece. Quite probably we 
will need to revisit that theme, as it is gaining increasing momentum in 
present "information societies", in science as well as in everyday life...

Thanks also to Sung for his interesting viewpoint and references.

Best wishes to all,
--Pedro

 
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Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
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[Fis] TOWARDS A NEW SESSION: SOEREN BRIER

[PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ]

Dear FISers,

Tomorrow we will start the new session on Infobiosemiotics, by Soeren Brier. 
Before so, let me pen some comments.

First, to join Plamen and others in thanking Louis. Particularly interesting 
for me was his last text on recursive distinctioning. Quite curiously, an old 
work of mine I mentioned weeks ago was about a sort of algebra for distinctions 
(to be applied to a putative "language of cells" via signaling systems) that 
contains remarkable similarities. Our elimination of items in the letter 
strings was based on three principles: symmetry, economy, and parsimony... we 
used "0" and inverse elements, and after the arrival of some new letters-signs 
the whole set/node was collapsing and "emitting", etc. etc. Anyhow, I will 
re-read with high interest, looking for further connections & ideas.

About some of the biological points raised in the discussion a few days ago 
(unfortunately I was caught in administrative compromises), I would reiterate 
that the present day biomolecular panorama of the simplest cells suggests a 
more cogent relationship between self-production and communication. I already 
gave some arguments: direct communication with the world is a prerequisite for 
organizing a metabolically efficient cellular system. Such direct communication 
via "one component systems" outnumbers any other signaling tools; this is well 
known in signaling science more than 10 years ago but has had no general impact 
yet.  The prokaryote is not really so autopoietic, it could be something else 
(maybe "infopoietic", but is the label needed??)... What the theme strongly 
suggests is a reconceptualization on how the cell "is in the world," only 
viable through unending communication tricks with the environment. 
Communication for "eking out" a life runs densely across the whole evolutionary 
process. Even more, it runs very deeply in the innards of our social life, in a 
curious trans-kingdom evolutionary twist. As I remarked in the previous session 
with Maxine, the origins of our own human communication via language are 
closely related to our wild "microbiome experiment". Given that we count with 
50% less microbiota in our gut and we have to produce an extra 20% of metabolic 
output, the social knitting via language for group feeding (cooking, 
fermentation, etc.) made the miracle. The big, communicative "social brain" 
(Allman, Dunbar) was essentially born for achieving group nutritional survival. 
Group communion... as is symbolically reminded in some religious rites. (Well, 
as an aside, my own mini-group is cooperating in some microbiome research on a 
very essential nutrient, with very curious results that we will publicize quite 
soon. I cannot help but having the theme in mind!). Anyhow, the final point 
from this ignored vital dependence and from similar ones is that we live 
crisscrossed by multitude of information flows that we are unaware of. That 
some disciplines could have deciphered faster some of them has had a tremendous 
influence on how we have approached during last two generations the whole 
information phenomena. Witness the terrible conceptual problems we have in 
whatever aggregate scales (often, already navigated elegantly by nervous 
systems).

The gist of the above tangents, is that some sort of premature closure in the 
the relationship between life and formal/philosophical arenas has introduced an 
unnecessary, cumbersome complexity. New forms of thought and of expression may 
be at hand to clarify the biological/social roots of information/communication 
phenomena, also for better capturing the personal meanings of life in these 
strange times of information and complexity overload. McLuhan revisited... And 
finally, a hint addressed to the quantum oriented colleagues: "When we look at 
a biological system we are looking at the face of the underlying physics of the 
universe." (Michael Conrad, First FIS Conference, Madrid 1994).

It will be quite interesting continuing the present discussion under the new 
themes proposed by Soeren.

Best regards
--Pedro


El 31/03/2016 a las 9:49, Louis H Kauffman escribió:
Dear Folks,
I will close with some comments about the relationship between recursive 
distinctioning and replication in biology.
This will be another example of the sort of modeling excursion that one can 
make by looking at patterns and analogies.
See
homepages.math.uic.edu/~kauffman/RD.html


RECURSIVE DISTINCTIONING

This folder contains links to papers related to Recursive Distinctioning. 
Recursive Distinctioning means just what it says. A pattern of distinctions is 
given in a space based on a graphical structure (such as a line of print or a 
planar lattice or given graph). Each node of the graph is occupied by a letter 
from some arbitrary alphabet. A specialized alphabet is given that can indicate 
distinctions about neighbors of a given node. The neighbors of a node are all 
nodes that are con

[Fis] TOWARDS A NEW SESSION ON ECOLOGICAL ECONOMICS

[Pedro C. Marijuan]

Dear FIS colleagues,

In a few days we will start a new discussion session on a 
multidisciplinary theme that is getting more and more attention in our 
times: ECOLOGICAL ECONOMICS.


The session will be chaired by:
Nikhil Joshi

Lifel.Org, Mumbai, India

A new perspective will be offered on how we evaluate our social 
interactions with Nature, and how we could find new solutions in 
aligning economics and ecosystems.


Best greetings
--Pedro

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Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
Centro de Investigación Biomédica de Aragón (CIBA)
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50009 Zaragoza, Spain
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[Fis] Towards a New Session

[Pedro C. Marijuan]

Dear FISers

Many thanks to Joseph for his creative colophon to the current discussion 
session and for his diligent chairing --thanks to Kevin for his cooperation too.

We are heading now towards a new discussion session, on "INTELLIGENCE AND INFORMATION". It will be chaired by Professor Yi-Xin-Zhong, of the Beijing University of Posts and Telecommunications. He is the President of the Chinese Association for Artificial Intelligence (CAAI). 

Editor-in-Chief, Journal of 
Intelligent Systems


Chairman of Editorial Board, Journal of 
China P&T Universities


Chair of advisory board, International 
Journal of Advanced Intelligence


He was also our friendly amphitrion during the past FIS2010 conference in 
Beijing.

This is the first time we discuss about "intelligence" in the list (the theme 
has surfaced, but never has been leitmotiv of a focused session).  Given that several 
practitioners of Artificial Intelligence fields and companies have recently joined, they 
are kindly invited to introduce themselves and their views along the coming session. 
Within FIS need a robust discussion community in these topics...

Please, along the discussion remember the limitation: ONLY TWO POSTINGS PER 
WEEK.


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Grupo de Bioinformación / Bioinformation Group
Instituto Aragonés de Ciencias de la Salud
Avda. Gómez Laguna, 25, Pl. 11ª
50009 Zaragoza, Spain
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