Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-27 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
<dea...@berkeley.edu>; Foundation of Information Science <fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos Dear Terry and colleagues, (...) , there cannot be interminable regress of this displacement to establish these norms. At some point

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-27 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Loet and colleagues, One of the advantages of a new discipline is the simplification of discourse, the creation of a new space where you can easily build new knowledge without copious management of other unnecessary, circumstantial ideas. I have already quoted in this list the famous

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-26 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Terry and colleagues, (...) , there cannot be interminable regress of this displacement to establish these norms. At some point normativity requires ontological grounding where the grounded normative relation is the preservation of the systemic physical properties that produce the

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-26 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Terrence, Condsider the Russell paradox. Russell set is R = { x a set | x is not a member of itself}. If instead we define R = { x a set | x is not a member of itself, and x is defined PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION OF THIS DEFINITION} then R is not a member of itself since it occurs AFTER

Re: [Fis] The two very important operations of Infos

2017-10-25 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Adding a temporal dimension has often been offered as a way out of paradox in quasi-physical terms. This is because interpreting paradoxical logical relations or calculating their values generally produces interminably iterating self-contradicting or self-undermining results. Writers from G. S.