Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 24

2016-02-23 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Loet, On 22 Feb 2016, at 20:36, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: All worldviews begin in a miracle. No exceptions. I agree. Nevertheless, we should, and can, minimize the miracle. Why would one need a worldview? We need some theory, and around the mind-body problem or the first person/third

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 24

2016-02-22 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
All worldviews begin in a miracle. No exceptions. I agree. Nevertheless, we should, and can, minimize the miracle. Why would one need a worldview? The whole assumption of an order as a Given (in a Revelation) is religious. Order is always constructed (by us) and can/needs to be explained.

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 24

2016-02-22 Thread Bruno Marchal
Dear Malcolm, On 21 Feb 2016, at 22:51, Malcolm Dean wrote: All worldviews begin in a miracle. No exceptions. I agree. Nevertheless, we should, and can, minimize the miracle. With the digital mechanist assumption, the miracle can be limited to the axioms of elementary arithmetic (or comb

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 23, Issue 24

2016-02-21 Thread Malcolm Dean
All worldviews begin in a miracle. No exceptions. Malcolm On Feb 21, 2016 3:00 AM, wrote: >- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2016 07:37:09 +0100 > From: "Loet Leydesdorff" > To: "'Pedro C. Marijuan'" , "'fis'" > > Subject: