[Fis] [FIS] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-30 Thread Karl Javorszky
Gestalt Alex asks to contribute to his writing on Gestalt, based on Vedic teachings relating to how we memorise texts. Not knowing anything about the Vedic part of it, let me summarise what used to be accepted wisdom on Gestalt in psychology: this without any claim to completeness or

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-28 Thread steven bindeman
I meant to send this not only to Karl (which I did) but to Alex and to the rest of the group as well. > What a fascinating analysis into the many aspects of gestalt, Karl! > > I would like to comment on your statement that “the idea of gestalt > transcends the language in which it can be

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-24 Thread Alex Hankey
On 24/12/2016, Karl Javorszky wrote: > Information and Wittgenstein > > > > We should keep the self-evident in focus and refrain from descending into a > philosophical nihilism. We are, after all, reasonable people, who are able > to use our intelligence while

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-24 Thread Alex Hankey
RE: "The same situation is here with gravitation. We have a name for it, can measure it and integrate the concept - more or less seamlessly – into a general explanation. We just do not know, in an epistemological sense, what gravitation is. We have to take the normative power of the factual

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-24 Thread Karl Javorszky
Information and Wittgenstein We should keep the self-evident in focus and refrain from descending into a philosophical nihilism. We are, after all, reasonable people, who are able to use our intelligence while communicating, and usually we understand each other quite well. The idea, that

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-23 Thread Louis H Kauffman
Dear Steve, You write "But in later years he eventually recognized that the possibility of relating propositions in language to facts concerning the world could not in itself be proved. Without proof, the house of cards collapses. Once the validity of using language to describe the world ini a

Re: [Fis] Fis Digest, Vol 33, Issue 41: On the relation between information and meaning

2016-12-23 Thread steven bindeman
I would like to contribute to the current ongoing discussion regarding the relation between information and meaning. I agree with Dai Griffiths and others that the term information is a problematic construction. Since it is often used as an example of fitting the details of a specific worldly