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Asunto:         Re: [Fis] A Curious Story
Fecha:  Sun, 8 Jan 2017 10:32:50 +0100
De:     Joseph Brenner <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>
Responder a:    Joseph Brenner <joe.bren...@bluewin.ch>
Para: PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ <pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>, fis@listas.unizar.es



Dear All,
Happy New Year indeed! Let us all 'hope' (here OK) that 2017 does not turn into 1984. . .
Regarding the proposed discussion topic, I have two suggestions:
1) everyone should read, at least, the excellent and recent (Dec., 2016) Wikipedia article on Small Black Holes, so that we can share a minimum background (sic); 2) Otto should please tell us his theory of why miniature black holes from any source should not Hawking evaporate after exhausting the matter within a Fermi distance, thus eliminating the possibility of further growth.
'Cheers',
Joseph

   ----- Original Message -----
   *From:* PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
   <mailto:pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es>
   *To:* fis@listas.unizar.es <mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es>
   *Sent:* Thursday, January 05, 2017 12:06 PM
   *Subject:* [Fis] A Curious Story

   Dear FISers,

   Herewith the Lecture inaugurating our 2017 sessions.
   I really hope that this Curious Story is just that, a curiosity.
   But in science we should not look for hopes but for arguments and
   counter-arguments...

   Best wishes to All and exciting times for the New Year!
   --Pedro



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   *De:* Otto E. Rossler [oeros...@yahoo.com]
   *Enviado el:* miércoles, 04 de enero de 2017 17:51
   *Para:* PEDRO CLEMENTE MARIJUAN FERNANDEZ
   *Asunto:* NY session
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   *A Curious Story*
   Otto E. Rossler, University of Tübingen, Germany

   Maybe I am the only one who finds it curious. Which fact would then
   make it even more curious for me. It goes like this: Someone says “I
   can save your house from a time bomb planted into the basement” and
   you respond by saying “I don’t care.” This curious story is taken
   from the Buddhist bible.
   It of course depends on who is offering to help. It could be a
   lunatic person claiming that he alone can save the planet from a
   time-bomb about to be planted into it. In that case, there would be
   no reason to worry. On the other hand, it could also be that you,
   the manager, are a bit high at the moment so that you don't fully
   appreciate the offer made to you. How serious is my offer herewith
   made to you today?
   I only say that for eight years' time already, there exists no
   counter-proof in the literature to my at first highly publicized
   proof of danger. I was able to demonstrate that the miniature black
   holes officially attempted to be produced at CERN do possess two
   radically new properties:

     * they cannot Hawking evaporate
     * they grow exponentially inside matter

   If these two findings hold water, the current attempt at producing
   ultra-slow miniature black holes on earth near the town of Geneva
   means that the slower-most specimen will get stuck inside earth and
   grow there exponentially to turn the planet into a 2-cm black hole
   after several of undetectable growth. Therefore the current attempt
   of CERN's to produce them near Geneva is a bit curious.
   What is so curious about CERN's attempt? It is the fact that no one
   finds it curious. I am reminded of an old joke: The professor
   informs the candidate about the outcome of the oral exam with the
   following words “You are bound to laugh but you have flunked the
   test.” I never understood the punchline. I likewise cannot
   understand why a never refuted proof of the biggest danger of
   history leaves everyone unconcerned. Why NOT check an unattended
   piece of luggage on the airport called Earth?
   To my mind, this is the most curious story ever -- for the very
   reason that everyone finds it boring. A successful counter-proof
   would thus alleviate but a single person’s fears – mine. You, my
   dear reader, are thus my last hope that you might be able to explain
   the punch line to me: “Why is it that it does not matter downstairs
   that the first floor is ablaze?” I am genuinely curious to learn why
   attempting planetocide is fun.  Are you not?

   For J.O.R.
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