Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-07 Thread Koichiro Matsuno
choice. Information may also follow suit. Koichiro Matsuno From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of tozziart...@libero.it Sent: Wednesday, October 4, 2017 6:01 AM To: fis <fis@listas.unizar.es> Subject: [Fis] Heretic Dear FISers, After the provid

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2017-10-06 Thread Michel Godron
Dear colleagues In order to know the relations between living organisms and their environment, I use Brillouin's formula (and its fundamental thermodynamical signification) to compute the information contained in biological structures and the probability of events. It is written in french,

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Sungchul Ji
zar.es> on behalf of Bob Logan <lo...@physics.utoronto.ca> Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2017 12:39 PM To: Arturo Tozzi Cc: fis Subject: Re: [Fis] Heretic Dear Arturo - I enjoyed your expression of your opinion because of its directness and honesty even though I do not quite agree with ever

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2017-10-05 Thread Stanley N Salthe
physics.utoronto.ca/people/homepages/logan/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Oct 4, 2017, at 1:49 PM, tozziart...@libero.it wrote: > > Messaggio inoltrato Da: tozziart...@libero.it A: Alex > Hankey alexhan...@gmail.com Data: mercoledì

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-05 Thread Bob Logan
han...@gmail.com <mailto:alexhan...@gmail.com> Data: mercoledì, 04 ottobre 2017, 07:37PM +02:00 Oggetto: Re[2]: [Fis] Heretic Dear Prof. Hankey, I come from a free country, where everybody can say his own opinion, in particular if his opinion is not totally stupid. The times of Giordano Bruno an

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2017-10-04 Thread Alex Hankey
Dear Professor Tozzi, Might I suggest that you graciously retire from the list, as you evidently do not wish to participate in what the rest of us find fascinating topics of discussion. As a physicist, I have no difficulty in relating to the concept of 'information', and I am aware of no less

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2017-10-04 Thread Dai Griffiths
Thanks Loet, for a very clear and concise exposition of an approach that I agree with. I'm curious about your use of the word 'dualistic'. Dualism usually suggests that there are two aspects to a single phenomenon. As I interpret your post, you are saying that information and meaning are

Re: [Fis] Heretic

2017-10-04 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Nobody of us is able to provide an operative framework and a single (just one!) empirical testable prevision able to assess "information". Dear colleague, One should not confuse the confusion on the list with the clarity of the concept information in information theory. This definition is

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2017-10-03 Thread tozziarturo
In sum, I will never use anymore in my papers the useless term "information". -- Inviato da Libero Mail per Android___ Fis mailing list Fis@listas.unizar.es http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis

[Fis] Heretic

2017-10-03 Thread tozziarturo
Dear FISers, After the provided long list of completely different definitions of the term "information", one conclusion is clear: there is not a scientific, unique definition of information. Nobody of us is able to provide an operative framework and a single (just one!) empirical  testable