Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-21 Thread Christophe Menant
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2008 09:56:43 +0100From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge Friday, September 19, 2008, 12:27:06 AM, Christophe wrote: Folks, Answering to Joseph, I relate meaning to information by a systemic approach based

[Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Friends, You may have discussed this question before I joined the group, and I am not proposing it as a discussion topic. I would just like to know which of the two following sequences is currently generally preferred or accepted, and if the answer is important: a) knowledge is organized

Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread John Collier
At 10:35 AM 9/18/2008, Joseph Brenner wrote: Dear Friends, You may have discussed this question before I joined the group, and I am not proposing it as a discussion topic. I would just like to know which of the two following sequences is currently generally preferred or accepted, and if the

Re: [Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Gyorgy Darvas
Joseph, I think both have of common social value, and in this sense they are not subjective (psychological), rather either personal (cf. Polanyi) or objective, or both. I see the difference between knowledge and meaning in their reference: knowledge refers to a wider or more general

[Fis] information-meaning-knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Stanley Salthe
Folks -- Replying to Joseph, I use simultaneously three definitions of 'information'. Thus: a reduction in uncertainty / a constraint on entropy production / a difference that makes a difference With these, meaning is inherent in any constraint as a possibility, and any constraint could make

[Fis] Information - Meaning - Knowledge

2008-09-18 Thread Christophe Menant
Folks, Answering to Joseph, I relate meaning to information by a systemic approach based on constraint satisfaction that allows an evolutionary/bottom-up usage (http://cogprints.org/6014/). So with this, a meaning exists relatively to a system submitted to a constraint. A meaning (a