Hi Bruno,
This is very interesting for me, my approach to information is via the
mind-body and hard problems, and I'm sympathetic to
computationalism. On the other hand, I have difficulties understanding
much of what you say here. Let me focus on one point for now though.
Tuesday, April 17,
On 17 Apr 2012, at 11:44, Loet Leydesdorff wrote:
It seems to me that, if I believe I am duplicable, and understand the
protocol, I must predict that I will experience being in both Moscow
and
Washington. The process bifurcates one person, who becomes two
people with
absolutely
Hi again Bruno,
Heeding Pedro's kind reminder, this is my second and therefore last
message to the list this week. However, I'll be happy to continue the
discussion off-list (and to copy in any others who signal their
interest).
Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 10:57:41 AM, Bruno wrote:
The guy know
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
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Datum: 11.04.2012 10:44
An: fis@listas.unizar.es
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Dear John and colleagues,
Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication
--our best wishes for your complete
://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/
https://sites.google.com/site/naturalcomputingaisbiacap2012
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Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan
Sent: den 16 april 2012 17:54
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing
Dear Joseph and FIS
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*On Behalf Of *Pedro C. Marijuan
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Dear Joseph and FIS collegues,
The only item I can remember formally addressing the topic is La logique
du vivant
,
Joseph
Ursprüngliche Nachricht
Von: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
Datum: 11.04.2012 10:44
An: fis@listas.unizar.es
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Dear John and colleagues,
Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best
wishes for your
Dear John and colleagues,
Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our
best wishes for your complete recovery!
About physical information I think that Landauer clarified the panorama,
at least concerning the relationship between information theory and
thermodynamics.
...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan
Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:44 AM
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing
Dear John and colleagues,
Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best
wishes for your
Hi Gavin and others.
Try Information in biological systems (
http://web.ncf.ca/collier/papers/Information%20in%20Biological%20Systems.pdf )
(Handbook of Philosophy of Science, vol 8, Philosophy of Information (
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Dear discussants,
I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if
taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but
in the upward direction it is different. Info is not only
Dear Gavin et.FIS,
Information processing is omnipresent in biology.
Alan Turing's reaction-diffusion model of morphogenesis is certainly
well-known.
Here are a few more examples implying information processing within
biological systems:
1. Vrancisco Varela's self-reference calculus:
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Dear discussants,
I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken
too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the
upward direction it is different. Info is not only physical
Dear discussants,
I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too
strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward
direction it is different. Info is not only physical then, and the
dimension of self-construction along the realization of life cycle
Science Information Science
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Dear discussants,
I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too
strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward
direction it is different
Dear FISers:
Pedro and Plamen raise good and welcomed points regarding the nature of
physics, information, and biology. Although I believe in a strong relationship
between information and physics in biology, there are striking examples where
direct correspondences between information,
Hi FISers
Can anyone show me a calculus for Information relating to biological systems?
And if so show me the relationship with conceptual mathematics?
Regards
Gavin
Dear FISers:
Pedro and Plamen raise good and welcomed points regarding the nature of
physics, information, and biology.
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From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On
Behalf Of Kevin Clark
Sent: den 16 mars 2012 21:56
To: fis@listas.unizar.es
Subject: [Fis] Physics of Computing
Dear FISers:
Pedro and Plamen raise good and welcomed points regarding the nature of
physics
Thank you Gordana for your reply. But I'm not sure whether not you
misunderstood my comments about a direct correspondence between information and
physics in biology. So, I thought I should stress my point from a slightly
different approach.
Khrennikov and colleagues, for instance, often refer
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Thanks John and Kevin to update issues in information,
computation, energy and reality.
I would like point out to other articles more focused
in how coherence and entanglement are used by living systems (far from thermal
equilibrium):
Engel G.S., Calhoun T.R., Read E.L., Ahn T.K., Mancal
T.,
Dear folks,
This is a further article demonstrating that information is physical. It
is nice to be getting some empirical results.
http://www.nature.com/news/the-unavoidable-cost-of-computation-revealed-1.10186?WT.ec_id=NEWS-20120313
The previous article, which I mentioned on this list, is
Thank you John for your update (FIS Digest 559, Issue 4) on the cost of
computation. It's good to see experimental verification of Landauer's
Principle. For those FISers interested in related topics on Landauer's
Principle, you might also read:
1) Clark, K.B. (2010). Bose-Einstein condensates
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