Dear Ted, Thanks a lot for your point:
> I\'m not surprised that most physicists want to ontologically flatten > > everything into a QM-described truth. What does surprise me is that > no one has mentioned the inconvenient fact that gravity, that most > prevalent force in physics, is notably unfriendly to QM. Yes, quantum gravity is really totally unfriendly to QM. Last month at the workshop <<Beyond Quantum>> in Leiden I presented the following viewpoint: Why do we think that such a thing as quantum gravity should exist at all? The only reason is again the Copenhagen dogma about the completeness of QM. If one assume that QM is not complete at all, so it is not fundamental theory (and if one be even more provocative and assume that QFT is neither fundamental and complete theory), then there is no reasons to think that such a thing as quantum gravity exists. May be the real fundamental theory is purely classical and QM is just an approximation of such a theory. So the postulate on the completeness of QM is not so innocent, it is not just a philosophic subject... With Best Regards, Andrei Khrennikov Director of International Center for Mathematical Modeling in Physics, Engineering, Economy and Cognitive Sc., University of Vaxjo, Sweden _______________________________________________ fis mailing list fis@listas.unizar.es http://webmail.unizar.es/mailman/listinfo/fis