Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-11 Thread Ted Goranson
John Collier wrote on 6/10/06: At 05:35 PM 6/10/2006, Stanley N. Salthe wrote: John said: > Hmm. You should read Barwise and Seligman, Information Flow... ... It depends what you mean by logic. The issue is too complicated to get into here and now, but the simple answer is that there is no

Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-10 Thread John Collier
At 05:35 PM 6/10/2006, Stanley N. Salthe wrote: John said: > Hmm. You should read Barwise and Seligman, Information Flow: the logic of >distributed Systems. Very important for understanding Quantum Information. >Also, I assume that you are familiar with algorithmic complexity theory, >which is

Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-10 Thread Stanley N. Salthe
John said: > Hmm. You should read Barwise and Seligman, Information Flow: the logic of >distributed Systems. Very important for understanding Quantum Information. >Also, I assume that you are familiar with algorithmic complexity theory, >which is certainly rigourous, Minimum Description Length (Ri

Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-10 Thread James Johnson
- From: John Collier To: FIS Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description At 08:20 AM 6/7/2006, Andrei Khrennikov wrote: My comment:Yes, >> deeply about the nature of information>>This is the crucial point.

Re: [Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-10 Thread John Collier
At 08:20 AM 6/7/2006, Andrei Khrennikov wrote: My comment: Yes, >> deeply about the nature of information>> This is the crucial point. But as I know there are only two ways to define information rigorously, classical Shannon information, and quantum von Neumann information. In fact, all my discus

[Fis] Reply to Ted Goranson: levels of description

2006-06-07 Thread Andrei Khrennikov
Dear collegues, This is a part of my discussion with Ted Goranson. In the previous Email to the FIS- list Ted Goranson wrote: >> >> Any number of such ontological layers are >> >> possible and I suppose as system scale increases >> >> (physical, chemical, biological and so on...