Re: [Fis] Recapping the discussion? Joseph's Recap

2010-10-15 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear Joseph and FIS colleagues, When we look at a biological system we are looking at the face of the underlying physics of the universe... The picture is not one of of simple upscale percolation. The higher levels act down scale on the lower levels to redefine their fundamental

Re: [Fis] Recapping the discussion? Joseph's Recap

2010-10-15 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Pedro, Thank you for calling my attention and that of the Group to Conrad's vision and this most important quotation. It is certainly congenial to my logical system, in which downward causation, imperfect circularity and self-inconsistency are accepted as a matter of course and assigned

Re: [Fis] Recapping the discussion? Joseph's Recap

2010-10-15 Thread Stanley N Salthe
I would like to comment upon Conrad's statement: When we look at a biological system we are looking at the face of the underlying physics of the universe... The picture is not one of simple upscale percolation. The higher levels act down scale on the lower levels to redefine their fundamental

Re: [Fis] Fw: Recapping the discussion? Joseph's Recap

2010-10-15 Thread Pedro Clemente Marijuan Fernandez
Forwarded message, From Jamie Rose De James Rose integr...@prodigy.net Fecha Fri, 15 Oct 2010 06:42:39 -0700 (PDT) A fis@listas.unizar.es CC ro...@home.ease.lsoft.com Asunto Re: [Fis] Recapping the discussion? Joseph's Recap And not to be overlooked is Robert Rosen's