Re: [Fis] BBC Doco; Cell

2011-03-28 Thread Robin Faichney
Monday, March 28, 2011, 12:05:54 AM, Gavin wrote: Even at the most basic level of an organism's communication with its environment. There is no discernable information exchange. Every single one of our senses is an energy transduction structure-processing unit. All we do is transduce say

Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering Principles

2011-03-28 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
Dear Karl, Dear Loet, Thank you both for your postings and the perspectives they provide. They leave me with just two questions, and I am glad Karl does not want to close the discussion so that I may ask for your and other views on them. 1. Does Loet's reply to Karl regarding frameworks for

Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering Principles

2011-03-28 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
Dear Joe and colleagues, 1. Does Loet's reply to Karl regarding frameworks for observation of actual states vs. frameworks for expectations imply that such frameworks are completely mutually exclusive? Of course, not: the expectations are informed by previous observations and further

Re: [Fis] Discussion colophon--James Hannam. Orders and Ordering Principles

2011-03-28 Thread karl javorszky
Dear All, the contrasting views between Loet’s understanding of order as an implication of information and of the alternative which deducts information from order are in no real opposition. Rather they reflect differing perspectives, like the tradition of e.g. measuring a room from a middle

[Fis] On Category Errors

2011-03-28 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear List, Since I ran out of responses last week, I recently responded to Joe Benner's Logic In Reality posts on my blog: http://stevenzenith.info/on-logic-reality-category-errors-and-how-to-m There I quote Peirce on the subject of Reality. If my criticism is unjust or I have

Re: [Fis] BBC Doco; Cell

2011-03-28 Thread Gavin Ritz
Well then we totally agree on that. The second part of your response then, if some energy transduction has the properties of information flow where is it (what are these properties) and if it's there how do we measure it either qualitatively or qualitatively. Because it looks like to me, any