Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics… (J.Brenner)

2014-10-20 Thread Bob Logan
Dear all - my take on this post is that the question of whether physical processes are information is like the question: Is there a sound if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to listen? This is like the Zen koan: what is the sound of one hand clapping If no one is in the forest are

Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics… (J.Brenner)

2014-10-20 Thread Stanley N Salthe
Bob -- I think the viewpoint on information being expressed by Gerhard is that which sees information to be embodied in configuration/conformation. If a configured entity is in the world it necessarily will encounter other configurations/conformations which will result in an 'interpretation' by

Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics… (J.Brenner)

2014-10-20 Thread Robert E. Ulanowicz
Dear Bob, What you are saying is the obverse of the third law of thermodynamics. The third law says that entropy (viz., disorder) can only be measured with respect to some reference condition. Since information is the complement of entropy in Bayesian informatics, then the obverse becomes,

Re: [Fis] Physical Informatics… (J.Brenner)

2014-10-20 Thread Joseph Brenner
Dear Bob, This is not wasted time or space. At their beginning, there was something moving, call it ‘It’, that led to trees and us. Today, there is something in us, call it ‘It’, that leads to love. This It became and now becomes us. Am I to blame that I to try to understand It, from the

Re: [Fis] FIS 2015, Workshop on Combinatorics of Genetics, Fundamentals

2014-10-20 Thread Jerry LR Chandler
List: Their exist many forms of formal logics. One of the several concepts important to logic is an ancient concept: If antecedents, then consequences. In recent decades, the concept of para-consistent logic has emerged. It has found many applications, particularly in the cybernetics of