Hi Terry,
I have a question about your ‘PS’. I think of MEP as being constrained by
potentials and a limited set of material opportunities (the adjacent
possibilities). I think of it as a thermodynamic version of natural selection
in which some alternative states are thermodynamically
Response to Pedro's first comments: My choice of autogenesis is motivated
by ...
1. It is the simplest dynamical system I have been able to imagine that
exhibits the requisite properties required for an interpretive system (i.e.
one that can assign reference and significance to a signal due to
Message from Bob Ulanowicz
De: Robert E. Ulanowicz [u...@umces.edu]
Enviado el: viernes, 09 de enero de 2015 19:30
Para: fis@listas.unizar.es
Asunto: Re: [Fis] Response to Pedro's first comments:
Terry Deacon wrote:
3. The self-regulating self-repairing
Hi Guy,
Yes. Clearly self-organized dissipative processes can be blocked from
completely dissipating or else autogenesis could not be possible. The key
point is this: self-organized dissipative systems like tornados, growing
snow crystals, or Benárd convection cells do not involve any dynamical
TD: Autogenesis is also not a Maximum Entropy Production process because it
halts dissipation before its essential self-preserving constraints are
degraded and therefore does not exhaust the gradient(s) on which its
persistence depends.
S: Abiotic dissipative structures will degrade their
(Following some requests, I include herewith the points of Section 4,
the theoretical core.
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Hi Pedro,
Jeremy Sherman here, a long-time pirate. Pleased to meet you. You say:
I am also critical with the autogenesis model systems--wouldn't it be far
clearer approaching a (relatively) simple prokaryotic cell and discuss upon
its intertwining of the communication and self-production
Message from Terry Deacon
Original Message
Subject:Re: [Fis] Steps to a theory of reference significance
Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 03:32:22 +0100
From: Terrence W. DEACON dea...@berkeley.edu
To: Pedro C. Marijuan pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es
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