At 4:00 AM 06/27/2015, John Collier wrote:
I also see no reason that Bateson’s difference that makes a difference needs to
involve meaning at either end.
[KM] Right. The phrase saying “a difference that makes a difference” must be a
prototypical example of second-order logic in that the
Sorry Loet, but I just don't see the need for an observer. I do think the
difference must be by something to something (perhaps the same thing) but
Koichiro's formulation implies this. Again, I warn against unneeded
complication.
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Koichiro: “In order to make them decidable or meaningful, some qualifier must
definitely be needed. A popular example of such a qualifier is a subjective
observer.”
“A difference that makes a difference” for a qualifier, thus requires
specification of:
1. The first difference;
2.
On Jun 26, 2015, at 10:02 PM, Andrei Khrennikov andrei.khrenni...@lnu.se
wrote:
Life is hard... I am afraid that it is impossible to put this qualifier in
front information used in recent information approaches to quantum
mechanics.
For Zeilinger and Brukner (this is my private
