Hi FISers,

(1) Perhaps this has been discussed already either on this lsit or elsewhere, 
i.e, the possible connection between the Irreducible Triadic Relation (ITR) and 
Plato's Allegory of the Cave (PAC).  Regardless, I would like to propose below 
my own version of the relation between ITR and PAC.



  [cid:5ffda82e-0661-4afd-8e02-6119cbe799d2]

https://philosophyzer.wordpress.com/2012/09/21/the-allegory-of-the-cave-by-plato-summary-and-meaning/


(2) We can represent ITR diagrammatically as shown in the legend to Table 1 
which is also known as the commutative triangle in category theory. As I 
summarized in the main body of Table 1, the 3 nodes (A, B, & C) and 3 edges (f, 
g, & h) of the ITR diagram have specific examples in three different systems -- 
(i) Plato's cave, (ii) natural science, and (iii) semiotics.



Table 1.  The Irreducible Triadic Relation (ITR) in Plato’s cave, science , and 
semiotics.

                                                   f               g

                                          A  --------> B  --------> C

                                           |                                 ^
                                           |                                  |

                                           |_________________|

                                                            h


Agent


A


B


C


f


g


h


Plato’s cavemen


Form
(or Real world)


Shadows

on the wall


Thought


Physical laws


Perception


Universal causality


Scientists


4-D structure of enzymes


3-D structure of enzymes


Scientific model


measurement


Interpretation


Correlation


semioticians


Object


Sign


Interpretant


Sign production


Sign interpretation


Grounding Correlation





(3) I am assuming that Plato’s cavemen divide into two groups -- (i) the common 
cavemen who think (and believe) that the shadows are real, and (ii) the 
enlightened cavemen whose intellect distinghishes between shadows and the real 
objects casting them.  It may be justified to describe the difference between 
the way the common cavemen think and the way the enlightened cavemen think as 
the ‘dyadic thinking’ (i.e, Step f reversed, or  A <----- B only) and ‘the 
triadic thinking’ (i.e., the entire commutative triangle), respectively.


(4) I liken to the common cavemen defined above the many briliant and 
hardworking scientists who believe that studying the static 3-dimensional 
structures of all the enzymes and proteins in the mitochondrion will eventually 
solve the mystery of how the organell works in living cells. In this sense, I 
believe that Plato's allegory of the cave applies to contemproary science.


(5) If it can be validated that there are indeed two types of Plato's cavemen 
and in modern science, it may also apply to information science, leading to the 
prediction that there will be two kinds of information scientists -- (i) dyadic 
thinking information scientis and (ii) and triadic thinking information 
scientis.


(6) Finally, One interesting spinoff of Table 1 may be that its Column A sheds 
new light on what Plato might have meant by his Form or Idea, thus contributing 
to solving the Plato-Aristotle debate on the Form-Matter dualtiy.


Any questions or commens are welcome as always.


Sung


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