will shut up now.
Regards,
John
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Joseph Brenner
Sent: June 13, 2015 10:16 AM
To: fis
Subject: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
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From: Joseph
...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Stanley
N Salthe
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Krassimir -- Thanks. Now I see what your objection is. You do not agree
with the Wheeler concept that information
://scholar.google.com/citations?user=ych9gNYJhl=en
*From:* Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Stanley
N Salthe
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Krassimir -- Thanks. Now I see what your
up now.
Regards,
John
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Brenner
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*From:* Joseph Brenner joe.bren
and eventually
tested hypotheses, not in any a priori belief.
John
From: Krassimir Markov [mailto:mar...@foibg.com]
Sent: June 12, 2015 11:19 PM
To: John Collier; Stanley N Salthe; fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
Dear John and Stan,
Your both
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From: Joseph Brenner
To: fis
Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2015 10:13 AM
Subject: Fw: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
Dear Colleagues,
I completely agree with Krassimir's position and on the importance of the issue
on which it taken
-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Joseph Brenner
Sent: June 13, 2015 10:16 AM
To: fis
Subject: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
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From: Joseph Brennermailto:joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
To: fismailto:fis@listas.unizar.es
Sent: Saturday, June 13
Thanks, Ken. I think your previous message and this one are drawing sort
of the border-lines of the discussion. Achieving a comprehensive view on
the interrelationship between computation and information is an
essential matter. In my opinion, and following the Vienna discussions,
whenever life
physiological
systems.
John
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Stanley N Salthe
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:40 PM
To: fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
Pedro -- Your list:
physical, biological, social
colli...@ukzn.ac.za
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*To:* Stanley N Salthe ssal...@binghamton.edu ; fis
fis@listas.unizar.es
*Subject:* Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
Not quite the same hierarchy, but similar:
It from bit is just information, which
Pedro -- Your list:
physical, biological, social, and Informational
is implicitly a hierarchy -- in fact, a subsumptive hierarchy, with the
physical subsuming the biological and the biological subsuming the social.
But where should information appear? Following Wheeler, we should have:
in most physiological
systems.
John
From: Fis [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Stanley N Salthe
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2015 3:40 PM
To: fis
Subject: Re: [Fis] Philosophy, Computing, and Information - apologies!
Pedro -- Your list:
physical, biological, social, and Informational
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