Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-02-01 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear Terry, First, allow me to respond to your questions on my own account and then further challenge your own. No, information is not for me a stereochemical property, in that I am less concerned about the particulars of the chemistry involved. However, my principal concern is a generalized

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-31 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Message d'origine De : dea...@berkeley.edu Date : 30/01/2015 - 12:43 (PST) À : joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Cc : fis@listas.unizar.es Objet : Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture? Thanks to Joseph for this spirited rejoinder, and to Krassimir for reminding us that convergence is perhaps

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear Terry, list. I apologize that I have not had the time to keep up with this discussion. I did try to read Terry's text but found it strangely impenetrable with many more word than were necessary to make a point. This is, perhaps, merely a question of style, repeated in the recent books of his

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Thanks to Joseph for this spirited rejoinder, and to Krassimir for reminding us that convergence is perhaps more likely to succeed than any single-minded approach. With Krassimir, I am in agreement. I have probably overstated the priority of my own approach, even if I do believe it to be a best

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Hi Steven, My apologies for wordiness. We all have our weaknesses. I am curious about your claim that a complete theory of information may be impossible. I am not even sure what this would mean — except irresolvable dualism. But as to the issue of whether I advocate an identity theory, I can

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Terrence W. DEACON
Dear Steven, Sadly Taking the time (and wordiness) required to explain my critique and redefinition of emergence is beyond the scope this venue and your patience, so I can only point to my too lengthy book for that account. Needless to say I do not accept either dualism or identity theory. My

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
processes (Wu again) involved. Best wishes, Joseph Message d'origine De : dea...@berkeley.edu Date : 30/01/2015 - 12:43 (PST) À : joe.bren...@bluewin.ch Cc : fis@listas.unizar.es Objet : Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture? Thanks to Joseph for this spirited rejoinder

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Steven Ericsson-Zenith
Dear Terry, This emergence theory, at least on the face of it, is then surely an advocacy of dualism, since epiphenomenalism is logically indistinguishable from identity theory. So I must ask how you propose to distinguish the two. Information theory is a way of speaking about what happens in

Re: [Fis] Fwd: Re: Concluding the Lecture?

2015-01-30 Thread Francesco Rizzo
Cari Tutti, non vi frastornate. Il pensiero pensante non lo ferma nessuno. Una legge dell'informazione per tutto il sapere e l'intera esistenza è possibile e inevitabile, al di là di ogni specificazione. Inform-azione significa sempre e in tutti i settori del sapere, dare o prendere forma,