Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-17 Thread Robin Faichney
Hi Bruno, This is very interesting for me, my approach to information is via the mind-body and hard problems, and I'm sympathetic to computationalism. On the other hand, I have difficulties understanding much of what you say here. Let me focus on one point for now though. Tuesday, April 17,

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
On 17 Apr 2012, at 11:44, Loet Leydesdorff wrote: It seems to me that, if I believe I am duplicable, and understand the protocol, I must predict that I will experience being in both Moscow and Washington. The process bifurcates one person, who becomes two people with absolutely

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-17 Thread Robin Faichney
Hi again Bruno, Heeding Pedro's kind reminder, this is my second and therefore last message to the list this week. However, I'll be happy to continue the discussion off-list (and to copy in any others who signal their interest). Tuesday, April 17, 2012, 10:57:41 AM, Bruno wrote: The guy know

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Datum: 11.04.2012 10:44 An: fis@listas.unizar.es Betreff: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear John and colleagues, Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best wishes for your complete

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
://www.mrtc.mdh.se/~gdc/ https://sites.google.com/site/naturalcomputingaisbiacap2012 From: fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: den 16 april 2012 17:54 To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear Joseph and FIS

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-16 Thread Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
[mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] *On Behalf Of *Pedro C. Marijuan *Sent:* den 16 april 2012 17:54 *To:* fis@listas.unizar.es *Subject:* Re: [Fis] Physics of computing ** ** Dear Joseph and FIS collegues, The only item I can remember formally addressing the topic is La logique du vivant

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-12 Thread Bill Seaman
, Joseph Ursprüngliche Nachricht Von: pcmarijuan.i...@aragon.es Datum: 11.04.2012 10:44 An: fis@listas.unizar.es Betreff: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear John and colleagues, Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best wishes for your

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-11 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear John and colleagues, Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best wishes for your complete recovery! About physical information I think that Landauer clarified the panorama, at least concerning the relationship between information theory and thermodynamics.

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-04-11 Thread Loet Leydesdorff
...@listas.unizar.es [mailto:fis-boun...@listas.unizar.es] On Behalf Of Pedro C. Marijuan Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2012 10:44 AM To: fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear John and colleagues, Nice to hear that you are OK after that dangerous intoxication --our best wishes for your

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-04-10 Thread John Collier
Hi Gavin and others. Try Information in biological systems ( http://web.ncf.ca/collier/papers/Information%20in%20Biological%20Systems.pdf ) (Handbook of Philosophy of Science, vol 8, Philosophy of Information (

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-03-18 Thread Bruno Marchal
@listas.unizar.es mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward direction it is different. Info is not only

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-03-17 Thread Dr. Plamen L. Simeonov
Dear Gavin et.FIS, Information processing is omnipresent in biology. Alan Turing's reaction-diffusion model of morphogenesis is certainly well-known. Here are a few more examples implying information processing within biological systems: 1. Vrancisco Varela's self-reference calculus:

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-03-17 Thread Bruno Marchal
@listas.unizar.es mailto:fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward direction it is different. Info is not only physical

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-03-16 Thread Pedro C. Marijuan
Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward direction it is different. Info is not only physical then, and the dimension of self-construction along the realization of life cycle

Re: [Fis] Physics of computing

2012-03-16 Thread Guy A Hoelzer
Science Information Science fis@listas.unizar.esmailto:fis@listas.unizar.es Subject: Re: [Fis] Physics of computing Dear discussants, I tend to disagree with the motto information is physical if taken too strictly. Obviously if we look downwards it is OK, but in the upward direction it is different

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-03-16 Thread Gavin Ritz
Hi FISers Can anyone show me a calculus for Information relating to biological systems? And if so show me the relationship with conceptual mathematics? Regards Gavin Dear FISers:   Pedro and Plamen raise good and welcomed points regarding the nature of physics, information, and biology.

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-03-16 Thread Gordana Dodig-Crnkovic
Dear Kevin and FIS, Searching for Andrei's articles, I found http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0906/0906.4952.pdf and in the abstract there is a claim: Therefore, mental states, during perception cognition of ambiguous figures, follow quantum mechanics. I am not an expert by any means but I

Re: [Fis] Physics of Computing

2012-03-16 Thread joe.bren...@bluewin.ch
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