It was my point that there could not be expectation unless there was
an observer, even if that observer was of the most general kind.  That is,
both expectation and observer would have to have been the products of
evolution.

 

Perhaps, you can appreciate this difference in our assumptions in your reply
to the list?

 

      If one assumes that our physical (mathematical) constructs predate the
origin of Western-style science, then your point is well-taken. 

 

STAN

 

Dear Stan and colleagues, 

 

If uncertainty prevails, the cosmos can be considered as a chaos. The arrow
of time correspondingly is inverted. Evolution then can be considered as the
historical bottom-up process in which (self-)organizing systems are
constructed, but the constructs take over control and reconstruct their
history from the perspective of hindsight.

 

Remember that Tycho Brahe when looking upward or downward saw order (God's
order). If one replaces this with a chaology, when has to rethink the order
of time. Anticipatory systems - that is, systems which entertain models of
themselves in order to reconstruct their history and future - can then be
expected. 

 

With best wishes, 

Loet

 

  _____  

Loet Leydesdorff 

Professor, University of Amsterdam
Amsterdam School of Communications Research (ASCoR), 
Kloveniersburgwal 48, 1012 CX Amsterdam. 
Tel.: +31-20- 525 6598; fax: +31-842239111
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<http://www.leydesdorff.net/> http://www.leydesdorff.net/ 

 

 

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