Caro Plamen Simeonov e Cari Tutti, secondo U. Maturana e F. Varela la conoscenza ha fondamenti biologici. Tutta la conoscenza, anche quella fisica, soprattutto quella quantistica, ha fondamenti biologici. E viceversa, la biologia ha fondamenti quantistici. Quel che scrivo qui sinteticamente può sembrare apodittico e dogmatico, ma nei miei libri questo è analizzato, approfondito e sistemato in modo organico: beninteso, secondo l'ottica della mia "Nuova economia". Quindi vi sono elementi fondati per condividere l'accostamento tra "platonismo, teologia, logica e algebra". Così come, a me pare ben fondato il rapporto quadrangolare che passa tra: i numeri primi, la funzione d'onda di Riemann, la meccanica quantistica e la geometria frattale (dei mercati) (cfr. fra gli altri, Rizzo R., "Una vita. Il figlio del garzone", Aracne editrice, Roma, 2015, pp. 305-306.) Un augurio, ancora, pasquale. Francessco
2016-03-30 1:00 GMT+02:00 Guy A Hoelzer <hoel...@unr.edu>: > Hi Robert, > > I haven’t read your book yet, but thanks for the link. You have certainly > thought through these issues much more deeply than I have and I appreciate > your perspective. I am trying to parse the meanings of your three > fundamentals, so please let me know if I am getting the main ideas right. > > “Aleatoricism” seems to reflect the creativity associated with dynamics at > ‘the edge of chaos’, or inherent to self-organization. I would strongly > agree with this as an essential fundamental that was not explicit in my > formulation. I would argue that aleatoricism and feedback are implicit in > the notion of metabolism, but I like that you pull them out. > > I’m not sure what you are suggesting with the term “centripetality’. Is > this meant to reference the functional and dynamical coherence of > self-organizing systems? > > Regards, > > Guy > > > > On Mar 29, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Robert E. Ulanowicz <u...@umces.edu> wrote: > > > > Dear Guy, > > > > Please allow me to respond to your invitation to Terry with my two cents. > > > > My triad for supporting the dynamics of life is a bit different. I see > the > > three essential fundamentals as: > > > > 1. Aleatoricism > > > > 2. Feedback > > > > 3. Memory > > > > Just to briefly elaborate on each: > > > > 1. I use aleatoricism to avoid the baggage associated with the term > > "chance", which most immediately associate with "blind" chance. The > > aleatoric spans the spectrum from unique events to blind chance to > > conditional chance to propensities to just short of determinism. > > > > 2. More specifically (and in parallel with autopoesis) I focus on > > autocatalytic feedback, which exhibits the property of "centripetality". > > Centripetality appears on almost no one's list of properties of life, > > despite its ubiquity in association with living systems. > > > > 3. Memory (and information) likely inhered in stable configurations of > > processes (metabolism) well before the advent of molecular encoding. > Terry > > speaks to this point in Biological Theory 1(2):136-49. > > > > My fundamentals do not include reproduction, because I see reproduction > as > > corollary to 2 & 3. > > > > I propose a full metaphysics for life predicated on these three > > assumptions. > > <http://people.clas.ufl.edu/ulan/publications/philosophy/3rdwindow/> > > > > Looking forward to what others see as fundamental. > > > > Peace, > > Bob > > > > > >> I personally consider metabolism to be at the core of what constitutes > >> â?~lifeâ?T, so the notion of autopoeisis is very attractive to me. It > is > >> also possible that the richness of life as we know it depends on having > >> metabolisms (activity), genomes (memory), and reproduction combined. > The > >> reductionistic approach to singling out one of these three pillars of > life > >> as its essence may be futile. However, I want to point out that the > most > >> reduced version of â?~lifeâ?T I have seen was proposed by Terry Deacon > in > >> the concept he calls â?oautocellsâ? . Terry has made great > contributions > >> to FIS dealing with related topics, and I hope he will chime in here to > >> describe his minimalist form of life, which is not cellular, does not > have > >> any metabolism or genetically encoded memory. Autocells do, however, > >> reproduce. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Guy > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Fis mailing list > Fis@listas.unizar.es > http://listas.unizar.es/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/fis >
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