Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-18 Thread Andrew Schulman
> On trunk, universal variables no longer require fishd (!) and so it doesn't > get launched. This was first enabled with commit 20d7a142, and will be the > default behavior in the next release. When the release announcement comes, I hope there will be a short description of why this was done an

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread Diego Zamboni
I see. Thanks for the clarification! —Diego > On Nov 17, 2014, at 11:20 PM, ridiculous_fish > wrote: > > On trunk, universal variables no longer require fishd (!) and so it doesn't > get launched. This was first enabled with commit 20d7a142, and will be the > default behavior in the next rel

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread David Adam
On Sun, 16 Nov 2014, Mario Castelán Castro wrote: > Is it possible to use fish without "fishd" even if it loses some > functionality?. Specifically, is it possible to configure "fish" so as > to not to start "fishd" and not to print an error message about lacking > "fishd"?. On IRC, you mention

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread ridiculous_fish
On trunk, universal variables no longer require fishd (!) and so it doesn't get launched. This was first enabled with commit 20d7a142, and will be the default behavior in the next release. _fish > On Nov 17, 2014, at 9:00 PM, Diego Zamboni wrote: > > Hi Booker, > > I know all of this, but on

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread Diego Zamboni
Hi Booker, I know all of this, but on my machine I simply don’t have fishd installed, nor running: ➜ ~ echo $FISH_VERSION 2.1.1-1089-g0ea80a3 ➜ ~ ps agux | grep fishd a10022 34066 0.0 0.0 2443012704 s001 S+ 11:13AM 0:00.00 grep fishd ➜ ~ which fishd ➜ ~ find /usr/local -

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread Andrew Schulman
> If you really don't want fishd running, then you probably don't want to be > using fish. I wouldn't go that far. IIUC all fishd is responsible for is universal variables. fish has lots of other desirable features, and you won't get cleaner syntax by adding onto bash. ---

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-17 Thread Booker Bense
The pkill fishd is there to kill off older versions of fishd so you'll be running the latest and greatest. On of the first things fish does is see if fishd is running and if not it starts it up. OS X uses a BSD based ps, so you need to use bsd ps options( 'augx)' to see everything on the system. p

Re: [Fish-users] Using fish without fishd

2014-11-16 Thread Diego Zamboni
Strange... I see all the references to fishd in documentation, but I don't have fishd installed nor running. However, universal variables work fine. I'm installing fish using Homebrew, and the formula file contains a "pkill fishd" in the postinstall section, so I guess it must've been there not