Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread erixtekila
can you please tell me some content provider like the big film companies that uses flash streaming for their content ? iam working for an company which have a lot movie license but without a DRM in flash there is no go for flash streaming. thats not our idea, thats a rule by the content owner li

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread hank williams
Well, honestly, I dont know much about the movie companies, but the music and TV companies all allow streaming, whereas they dont allow progressive download. Movies are a bit different in that most of the schemes & services I have seen involve writing something to the hard disk, which is a big di

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread neve_capricorn
They used a crypted scheme to prevent the users to get direct access to the flv source. Hmm... No one needs this. If it really is streaming, content providers by and large are not concerned about encrypting streams to prevent interception. Many major content providers already user FLV streami

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread erixtekila
Hmm... No one needs this. If it really is streaming, content providers by and large are not concerned about encrypting streams to prevent interception. Many major content providers already user FLV streaming with flash media server so they are already happy with how things work. I don't anderstan

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread hank williams
They used a crypted scheme to prevent the users to get direct access to the flv source. Hmm... No one needs this. If it really is streaming, content providers by and large are not concerned about encrypting streams to prevent interception. Many major content providers already user FLV streaming

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread erixtekila
I dont know, but you dont *need* DRM for purely streamed FLVs since they dont sit in the cache. So I presume they are talking about progressive download. But these guys always do quite a bad job of describing what they do, therefore sucking every last bit of credibility out of their offerings. Th

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread Alias™
inal Message - From: "AliasT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV > As far as I can tell from a cursory glance: > > > - It uses some kind of media server, pr

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread hank williams
i would like to know if this is rtmp or if they use red 5 ?! I dont know, but you dont *need* DRM for purely streamed FLVs since they dont sit in the cache. So I presume they are talking about progressive download. But these guys always do quite a bad job of describing what they do, therefore s

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread erixtekila
here is the link: http://www.onlinelib.de/VCS/DRM/drmPlayer1.html i would like to know if this is rtmp or if they use red 5 ?! is there a way to figure this out , tcpdump or so ? Hint to play : swf is protected with '$1$yS$XcuxVQCjvcx/.Mu33i1qy1' play. WHAT_YOU _SEE_IS_WHAT_YOU _GET

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread neve_capricorn
an own flv encoder for this ? tom - Original Message - From: "AliasT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Flashcoders mailing list" Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV As far as I can tell from a cursory glance: - It uses

Re: [Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread Alias™
As far as I can tell from a cursory glance: - It uses some kind of media server, probably flashcom/fms - It uses a combination of MD5 hashing and LSOs to verify/store/retireve user licence information I would be of the opinion that this DRM could be easily defeated. However, I haven't tried. A

[Flashcoders] DRM for FLV

2006-09-04 Thread neve_capricorn
hi all, i got today an email from www.onlinelib.de they say that they had develope a drm system for flv files together with our german postbank. here is the link: http://www.onlinelib.de/VCS/DRM/drmPlayer1.html i would like to know if this is rtmp or if they use red 5 ?! is there a way to fig