Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-29 Thread John McCormack
Steven Sacks wrote: Want to do MVC right? Use this: http://www.robotlegs.org/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Well that was really interesting. This too on as3

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-21 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
great alternative thread thanks guys On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Dave Watts wrote: > > > No one needs to learn "framework mumbo-jumbo", but if that's how you > > > see frameworks, you're missing the point. The point of using a > > > framework is to be able to spend less time thinking about

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Dave Watts
> > No one needs to learn "framework mumbo-jumbo", but if that's how you > > see frameworks, you're missing the point. The point of using a > > framework is to be able to spend less time thinking about how you > > organize things. Frameworks are for lazy people like me. I'd rather be > > watching T

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Henrik Andersson
Dave Watts wrote: No one needs to learn "framework mumbo-jumbo", but if that's how you see frameworks, you're missing the point. The point of using a framework is to be able to spend less time thinking about how you organize things. Frameworks are for lazy people like me. I'd rather be watching T

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Dave Watts
> Don't let the programmers on the list intimidate you into learning a bunch of > framework mumbo-jumbo. If you learned Flash/Flex > after earning a Computer Science degree, it makes sense because they *start* > with OOP day one in school. But for creative > Flash peeps, frameworks are a Brazilia

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Glen Pike
e with this, I would be very greatful. Thanks in advance. Kind regards Cor van Dooren The Netherlands -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, Jason Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 17:35 To: Flash Coders Li

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Cor
-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Radley Marx Sent: woensdag 20 januari 2010 20:54 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers) Don't let the programmers on the list intimidate you into learning a bunch of framework mumbo-jum

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework (for non-programmers)

2010-01-20 Thread Radley Marx
; Thanks in advance. > Kind regards > Cor van Dooren > The Netherlands > > > -Original Message- > From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com > [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, > Jason > Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 17:35 > To: Fla

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread Merrill, Jason
: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework -10 sounds a teensy bit harsh. Had to laugh! I guess Cairngorm was good once. Tell me Piers, _why_ do you like RobotLegs so much better than PureMVC? I haven't used either but I could certainly use a good MVC approach. John Piers Cowburn wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread Piers Cowburn
Haha, sorry, that was a bit off the cuff :) Like I said, I still use PureMVC, especially if I've got large parts of a PureMVC based app that I can reuse in a new one. But RobotLegs removes the extra typing that PureMVC requires to get hold of things (retrieving mediators/proxies, etc). To be c

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread John McCormack
-10 sounds a teensy bit harsh. Had to laugh! I guess Cairngorm was good once. Tell me Piers, _why_ do you like RobotLegs so much better than PureMVC? I haven't used either but I could certainly use a good MVC approach. John Piers Cowburn wrote: +1 for RobotLegs (I used to use PureMVC, an

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread Piers Cowburn
+1 for RobotLegs (I used to use PureMVC, and still do, but I've really enjoyed getting into RobotLegs) -10 for Cairngorm Piers On 20 Jan 2010, at 11:29, John McCormack wrote: > Steven, > > Have you found it better than pureMVC and Cairngorm? > > John > > Steven Sacks wrote: >> Wan

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread John McCormack
Steven, Have you found it better than pureMVC and Cairngorm? John Steven Sacks wrote: Want to do MVC right? Use this: http://www.robotlegs.org/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/list

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
ginal Message- > From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com > [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Merrill, > Jason > Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 17:35 > To: Flash Coders List > Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework >

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-20 Thread John McCormack
I tend to back off when there is more than I can grasp, in case I can't control it, so it was nice to see this example: http://examples.robotlegs.org/googlemaps/index.html John Steven Sacks wrote: Want to do MVC right? Use this: http://www.robotlegs.org/

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Steven Sacks
Want to do MVC right? Use this: http://www.robotlegs.org/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread John McCormack
are for Bank of America employees only) -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of John McCormack Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:43 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread John McCormack
] On Behalf Of John McCormack Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 20:48 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor, I am only familiar with a part of it but the book ActionScript 3 Design Patterns by Joey Lott and Danny Patterson from Adobe Press has a nice exa

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Barry Hannah
ason Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 20:58 To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor, if I can find some time, I'll try and send you a simple MVC example. We'll see how tonight goes with my 2 year old. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor, if I can find some time, I'll try and send you a simple MVC example. We'll see how tonight goes with my 2 year old. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Learning & Performance Soluions Join the Bank of America

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
s List' Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework My version is ActionScript 3 Design Patterns by William Sanders & Chandima Cumaranatunge. The MVC there is describe as a combination of several other patterns. The books is good, but I have to start at one level below that. Is

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
-Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of John McCormack Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:48 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor, I am only familia

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
tern?? -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of John McCormack Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 20:48 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor, I am only familiar with a par

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
m] On Behalf Of John McCormack Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 2:43 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Merrill, Jason wrote: > The view can hold an array of other views, Any new views can request to be added to the listener/notify list using the

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread John McCormack
35 To: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework This is my opinion, I'm sure others will have their own that may differ (and probably recommend you check out some frameworks - though that can be a lot to tackle) : the controller would listen to the model to

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
Thanks, Nathan! -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Nathan Mynarcik Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 20:42 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework There is

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread John McCormack
Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework very cool jason - thanks just a quick question - this setup works perfectly where the number of views is known, but how would you implement that with an unknown amount of views? or is this the setup for the root view with all othe

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com To: 'Flash Coders List' ReplyTo: Flash Coders List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Sent: Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM I even received a MVC for an appalication I was building from Muzak, but that is just a little to much to comprehend at this time.

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
[mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Henrik Andersson Sent: dinsdag 19 januari 2010 20:24 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor wrote: > Hi Jason, > > I hope you don't mind me addressing you of list. > If you do, please ig

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
t: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Cor wrote: > Hi Jason, > > I hope you don't mind me addressing you of list. > If you do, please ignore this message and I apologize to you! > > I am trying to grasp the MVC pattern, but it is very hard for me. > I am lo

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Henrik Andersson
Cor wrote: Hi Jason, I hope you don't mind me addressing you of list. If you do, please ignore this message and I apologize to you! I am trying to grasp the MVC pattern, but it is very hard for me. I am looking for a very simple example which explains the way it works. If you can help me with t

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Cor
List Subject: RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework This is my opinion, I'm sure others will have their own that may differ (and probably recommend you check out some frameworks - though that can be a lot to tackle) : the controller would listen to the model to know when the data is

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Paul Andrews
allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:09 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Hi guys I'm currently feeling my way through the o'reilly design patterns book and am going through the mvc design pattern as

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
tyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of allandt > bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) > Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:05 PM > To: Flash Coders List > Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework > > very cool jason - thanks > > just a quick question - this setup works per

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
com] On Behalf Of allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 12:05 PM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework very cool jason - thanks just a quick question - this setup works perfectly where the number of views is known, but

Re: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
k of America Global Learning > Learning & Performance Soluions > > Join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community and visit our > Instructional Technology Design Blog > (note: these are for Bank of America employees only) > > > > > > -Original Message-

RE: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
liott (thefieldcomic.com) Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2010 11:09 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: [Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework Hi guys I'm currently feeling my way through the o'reilly design patterns book and am going through the mvc design pattern as a way of dealing with

[Flashcoders] Using MVC for a site framework

2010-01-19 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
Hi guys I'm currently feeling my way through the o'reilly design patterns book and am going through the mvc design pattern as a way of dealing with (micro)site structures - dealing with opening and closing pages, loading data etc but i have a couple of questions that you guys will probably be able