RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-08 Thread Merrill, Jason
The only thing I really like on the surface of this merger is the fact the Macromedia apps will get tabbed palettes back. Doesn't Flash 8, Dreamweaver 8, etc. already have that? At least, they do on my machine. Unless what you mean by a tabbed palette isn't what I am thinking. Jason Merrill

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-08 Thread Zeh Fernando
The only thing I really like on the surface of this merger is the fact the Macromedia apps will get tabbed palettes back. Doesn't Flash 8, Dreamweaver 8, etc. already have that? At least, they do on my machine. Unless what you mean by a tabbed palette isn't what I am thinking. Not really.

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-08 Thread Derek Vadneau
, 2005 10:21 AM Subject: SPAM-LOW: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia Not really. He means Adobe-like paletters that MM was forced to stop using by a lawsuit from Adobe a couple of years ago (or so the story goes). On Photoshop, Illustrator and other Adobe tools, you can group panels

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-08 Thread Zeh Fernando
Actually you can group panels together in Flash 8, and they'll have tabs. Click the icon on the right in a tab header and select Group [PanelName] with. Then choose the panel you want it to be grouped with. Once they are grouped, they'll each have a tab. There seems to be a bug: the first

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Sara Spalding
The answer about the Flash Player and Adobe Reader was a little confusing. We updated the QA to make it more clear. Here's the updated text: What are Adobe's plans for Flash Player and Adobe Reader? Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Mountain
Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated runtime. How does this differ from a browser? M ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chad Mefferd
Gone are the days of a lightweight flash player. On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Mike Mountain wrote: Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated runtime. How does this differ from a browser? M

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I was just about to say it sounds like a browser, but with the ability to capture apps and content sychronize data, work offline and keep applets automatically up to date. I think its basically central, but in a UI that looks more like a browser. Regards Hank On 12/7/05, Mike Mountain [EMAIL

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate browser plugins for pdf and swf. Regards Hank On 12/7/05, Chad Mefferd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gone are the days of a lightweight flash player. On Dec 7,

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 12/7/05, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate browser plugins for pdf and swf. it might be apollo, of which i know almost nothing about, but which

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Geoffrey Williams
To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia Gone are the days of a lightweight flash player. On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Mike Mountain wrote: Our long-term plan is to develop a universal client by combining PDF, Flash and HTML in a single, integrated

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
Yex, it is apollo. I just didnt use the code word. But that is what I am referring to. Regards Hank On 12/7/05, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12/7/05, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It is a separate

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Mountain
such problems - wouldn't a top down solution be easier - ie. Modify mozilla? M -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hank williams Sent: 07 December 2005 16:29 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Judah Frangipane
It sounds like they will have for download Flash Player 8 and Adobe Reader for download for a while and eventually create a Flash Player X. Flash Player X = Flash Player 8 + Adobe Reader I wouldn't call it a central tho. Hopefully the file size will remain small or only marginally increase.

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread hank williams
I wouldn't call it a central tho. Hopefully the file size will remain small or only marginally increase. The new client is called apollo. As far as I know it *is* the new unified client that they are talking about that does flash + html + pdf. Apollo *is*, among other things, the follow on to

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chad Mefferd
Good. Wasn't it being referred to as Apollo or something like that? On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:15 AM, hank williams wrote: This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It is a separate thing, like central. So there will always be separate browser plugins for pdf and swf.

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chad Mefferd
Nevermind. I'm slow. On Dec 7, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Chad Mefferd wrote: Good. Wasn't it being referred to as Apollo or something like that? On Dec 7, 2005, at 10:15 AM, hank williams wrote: This new client is not in place of the current lightweight player. It is a separate thing, like

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Merrill, Jason
Flash Player X = Flash Player 8 + Adobe Reader I think Flash player 8.5 will be out before PDF is integrated in the player though. At least, that's the way it appears to be as things are right now. I would say it would be more like Flash Player 9 or 10 + Adobe Reader Jason Merrill |

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Chambers
Yes. That is correct. It is referring to Apollo, and not the web based plugins. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] hank williams wrote: Yex, it is apollo. I just didnt use the code word. But that is what I am referring to. Regards Hank On 12/7/05, Mark Winterhalder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Chambers
Again, the FAQ items refers to Apollo, and not the web based plugins / players. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merrill, Jason wrote: Flash Player X = Flash Player 8 + Adobe Reader I think Flash player 8.5 will be out before PDF is integrated in the player though. At least, that's the

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Chad Mefferd
Thanks for the straight dope on the topic Mike. Chad Mefferd On Dec 7, 2005, at 1:40 PM, Mike Chambers wrote: Again, the FAQ items refers to Apollo, and not the web based plugins / players. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Merrill, Jason wrote: Flash Player X = Flash Player 8 + Adobe

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Frederic v. Bochmann
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Chambers Sent: 07 December 2005 19:41 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia Again, the FAQ items refers to Apollo, and not the web based plugins / players. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Merrill, Jason
Again, the FAQ items refers to Apollo, and not the web based plugins / players. So Apollo will be a sort of web browser that has a flash and PDF renderer built in? I mean, I know Adobe won't likely market it as a browser, but that sounds basically like what it will be. What about our clients who

RE: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Theodore E Patrick
Apollo Recipe Embed Mozilla with native optimized Flash and PDF support. Add shell skinning Add one click local app installation via XML Add rich fileIO Add hardware acceleration via OpenGL Add ass kicking speed for Flash, 200fps or bust Add offline

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Mike Chambers
Based on the workflows shown by Kevin Lynch at the Spark Europe conference, I would think about it more as an app runtime than a browser. mike chambers Merrill, Jason wrote: So Apollo will be a sort of web browser that has a flash and PDF renderer built in?

Re: [Flashcoders] FAQ Adobe acquisition of Macromedia

2005-12-07 Thread Count Schemula
Macromedia was a little more straight-up with their downloads though. The only thing I really like on the surface of this merger is the fact the Macromedia apps will get tabbed palettes back. Anyhow, as an example. I had a client over and he needed to open a PDF. I had a newly formatted laptop