Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-21 Thread tom rhodes
the links that get served up to the bots have no #. and with mod_rewrite a deep link like yoursite.com/section/subsection/ can tell your flash exactly what it should be doing. when a user navigates from there then you'll see a #, google never will though. On 21 April 2010 13:50, allandt bik-ellio

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-21 Thread allandt bik-elliott (thefieldcomic.com)
does google still ignore the fragment identifiers used in swfaddress urls? if so do you do any .htaccess redirecting to get around this as otherwise, even with a set of links in your no flash div, you'll still only end up with a set of links into the index a On 21 April 2010 01:21, tom rhodes wr

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
google bots follow links. like i said before look at the swfaddress SEO stuff to get started. as long as what google finds at yoursite.com/section/is the same content you deliver in your flash when you go directly to yoursite.com/section/ then there is no foul play going on. it's not doubling up e

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 22:51, Dave Watts wrote: In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of "similar content" can reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic conte

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Dave Watts
> In the case that Flash is driven by dynamic content dependent on user > interaction, I don't see how such a criteria of "similar content" can > reasonably be applied. Most web applications that I work on, that have HTML interfaces, also have dynamic content. Presumably, you'd have the same dynam

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Paul Andrews
On 20/04/2010 21:37, Dave Watts wrote: Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered "cloaki

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Dave Watts
> Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search > engines if discovered? It depends on how it's done, exactly. If you have very similar content within Flash and within the alternative HTML you serve, it's not considered "cloaking": http://www.cnet.com/8301-13530_1-9748

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Nathan Mynarcik
2010 14:42:21 To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google as long as what you serve to the bots and as no flash content isn't different to what gets read by your flash i think it's cool... On 20 April 2010 14:29, Juan Pablo Califano wrote: > Isn

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
as long as what you serve to the bots and as no flash content isn't different to what gets read by your flash i think it's cool... On 20 April 2010 14:29, Juan Pablo Califano wrote: > Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search > engines if discovered? > Cheers > J

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Juan Pablo Califano
Isn't that kind of thing considered "unfair" play and penalized by search engines if discovered? Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2010/4/20 tom rhodes > use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the > headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a > browse

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread tom rhodes
use some server side script to serve up your site, check to see in the headers sent to the server if the request coems from a bot or from a browser, if from a bot, serve up your xml, if from a browser server up your site. have a google for "swfaddress SEO" On 20 April 2010 11:52, Paul Andrews

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash & Google

2010-04-20 Thread Karina Steffens
Hi Paul, Your best bet is to use something like SwfObject to write the flash in JavaScript, while serving indexable content to Google. That can be just some static text, or dynamically read content from the xml files. A fringe benefit of that is the ability to serve alternate content to browser