RE: [Flashcoders] voice recognition in flash
Or you could create a listener that monitors the level of microphone input being generated, appends information into a 2d array (length of trace and height at a given second). Once the data is collected you would be able to analyze sections of the newly stored array, against previously stored phrases... E.G. there is no activity and then suddenly the user says on, this takes around a second for the given user to say, and then silence once more... now the listener captures the data and places it in an array, the array is then sequenced to discover all the drops and peaks in the user's speech pattern... analysis is then preformed to find the time it takes for a bell curve to raise hit plateau and then finally drop, and then compare the data to a stored letter, word, or phrase; all done over several points of comparison, and allowing for a little variation as to the placement along the curve (or place within the array). Not only the peaks are important... you must also analyze the transition between peaks and drops/valleys. So o started at -20 db a given amount of time later it raised to -12db, and then dropped to -16 where it proceeded to transition into n at -17, -19, -22, and then raised a given amount of time later to -14 etc. (for more accurate software you would of course need more point comparisons) If I were you I would look at the way it is done by scratch; for it will help advance your programming ability in flash greatly. AS 2.0 is quite similar to c++ in a lot of respects. Your project is definitely possible at flashes current state. There was actually a program I saw that utilized peaks and valleys in sound to play a game. If anyone has more helpful information to add, or if my way of doing it is too complex, I would love to read the input. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of elibol Sent: January 18, 2006 1:25 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] voice recognition in flash That's way intense Ralph, it sounds like what I've been waiting for my entire life! H On 1/18/06, Ralph Caraveo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You might want to wait for Flash Player 8.5 and AS3.0 With AS3.0 you can use the computeSpectrum functionality on an audio file and get a byteArray of all it's spectrum/frequency data. -Ralph -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johan Lopes Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 10:00 AM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] voice recognition in flash Look into VoiceXML. It would be possible to let a server-side API deal with the voice recognition part and use the VoiceXML specification as a bridge between Flash and the API. There are loads of articles on this subject online. Just google it. For a while I was very interested in this topic and almost chose it as my research topic while at University. /Johan On 1/18/06, elibol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most probably not on the web, Actionscript does not provide a way to watch sound frequencies. Mario Klingemann has written a visualization script that responds to sound frequencies using 3rd party software which plays mp3s and passes frequency values to a swf file. This is a desktop application though, not on the web. I would think that it would be too slow to process on a server, since the server would have to do much processing with high levels of traffic. H On 1/18/06, Eduardo Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I looked in web this subject, but I did not have success, somebody knows if it is possible to make voice recognition in flash? sorry my bad english... tks, etruta ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.20/233 - Release Date: 18/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 ___ Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [Flashcoders] Sandy 0.2, a 3D API for Flash
On 28/01/06, Alan Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted a cubic panorama example in the Sandy forum: http://sandy.media-box.net/forum/index.php?act=STf=51t=5126 Here's the example online for y'all to see: http://www.neave.com/temp/pano/ Some optimisation is still needed... it's still slow compared to Immervision's version here: http://www.immervision.com/immerv2/en/multimedia/multimedia_technology/multimedia_technology_flash.php But definitely a good start! Paul. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Q: All OOP or ??????
Hi I was curious what approach most developers are using for their projects: 1 doing ALL of there development for every project within an OOP based framewrok, ie everything, from drawing and/or placing of objects, transitioning, interacting with server special effects, is done with a custom Class based framework and is entirely OOP based. 2 Or do most developers currently use a more 'hybrid' approach, with a lot of assets placed on stage at authortime and referenced via an '#include' if code is needed to be outside the FLA file. If third party Class code already exists (ie tween engines) then that is used rather than re-creating it from scratch. Custom classes are developed ONLY if there is some need for code re-use. Related to the above discussion there has been a lot of talk about use of design patterns, and , specifically the Model View Controller 'meta' pattern. Having just finished 'Head First Design Patterns' it all makes sense now. But there seems to be more than one way to interpret MVC, especially when it comes to whether the controller should be separated from the view 3 Which ways do developers implement the MVC pattern? All the best Jim Bachalo [e] jbach at bitstream.ca [c] 416.668.0034 [w] www.bitstream.ca ...all improvisation is life in search of a style. - Bruce Mau,'LifeStyle' ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Q: All OOP or ??????
Hi, You are probably going to hear this a lot: it depends. You'll find a lot of people doing 1, you'll find a lot doing 2... 3 4 5 6 etc. For example, (just a few examples, books could probably be written on this subject), an animation of a car driving down a road, sliding, going through corners etc: - could be an animation on a timeline - could be coded using positions, vectors etc - could be coded using displacements maps - could be coded by recording all the positions of an object during a tween and playing it back (altered or not) - ..? Which is the most appropriate to your project? Do the animations have to be very specific, are they updated a lot? When they do have to be updated, do you have to go to heaps of code, just becoz u have a timelinephobia? Etc etc These are all questions u could ask yourself. I took the example of an animation, but you could ask these kinds of things for databases as well (which database? One or more? Do we have to switch between dbs? Etc). No matter what I think u should be able to answer the 'why?' questions for yourself. Why do I do it like this? For example, why do I use a timeline animation in case A, and a coded animation in case B? Well because in case A the animation is well defined and very simple, and I want to be able to update it quickly, in case B the animation is very complex, it depends on factors like gravity and the like, and I don't want to go there timeline wise. What? So you use different options at the same time! Sometimes yes ;). The beauty of grey ;). Note that I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all, because the issues you raised are issues I think a lot of us struggle with everyday (I know I do!), so I don't claim to have all the wisdom, I'll just try to give you one view (my view) of the story. Anywayz, back to the example... So different options at the same time... The animation example is taken from real life, from a project I'm working on as we speak. I always try to think of it as, if I don't have a clue about HOW I'm going to do it (99%) I stop and remind myself of the WHAT (as I should do all the time :)). So.. We have an abstraction: an Animation class. What does it do? It plays, it stops, etc. How? No clue, an Animation subclass could be an animation built on top of Fuse, an movieclip with a timeline, a handwritten piece of code, I don't care, as long as it plays and stops and So I don't think this falls within either option 1 or 2, but within option x... And I wish I knew how to describe option X :). With regard to design patterns and MVC... First of all, I think design patterns are a means to an end. Design patterns have multiple goals/attributes: - they solve (part of) a difficult architectural problem for you - they increase reuse, robustness, maintainability - they help documentation your code, instead of describing class a,b,c,d you say, I used this pattern, and these classes play these roles - they might increase the complexity of your application Looking at the second point, reuse, robustness etc, the first patterns that come to mind, might not even be considered as patterns.. Low coupling, high cohesion, that kind of thing. Even without learning dozens of patterns, a lot of times the questions are as simple as: - if at one point I want to incorporate this into my programm, what happens? - if I pull this string, what happens? - if ... - if .. - if . If the answers to these kind of questions are: well, then I'd have to throw it all away and start over, some of the basic patterns may have been overlooked. On the other hand the answer might as well be: listen, you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, you are treading outside of the scope this code was meant to handle. One more note on design patterns, one of the most difficult things I encountered is that sometimes these patterns have not different goals but OPPOSING goals, one might increase reuse but break encapsulation, one might improve encapsulation but break reuse etc. With regard to the MVC pattern, I often collapse the controller and view. Most important for me are clear cut responsibilities, a model with no dependencies on the view. If another view has to be created, I might refactor my collapsed view/controller. Lot of times there is even discussion on whether it IS collapsed or not. For example 2 options: - I write a movieclip, put a few components in it(view) , and write a class (controller) and connect it to the movieclip in the property dialog. Is it collapsed? - I write a class which creates all the components by code. (this might be clearer) If I am certain up front there will be multiple views, I might put more time into the view/controller issue. In any case its just another black box to the rest of the program (let's assume a perfect world here for a moment). Lot of the different approach to MVC even stem from names issues, for example all the code in two examples might be the same, but in example A the view is called MyView and in
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
Rajat! you ROCK \m/ Thanks for the help! John On 1/28/06, Rajat Paharia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi John - If you want to execute a file via JSFL there's two ways that I know of: 1. There's an undocumented command in the JSFL File API called runCommandLine: http://www.asvguy.com/2004/07/undocumented_fl.html http://www.bit-101.com/blog/?p=547 Looking through some JSFL code I ran at some point, it looks like I didn't know the path to the executable to be launched, only the document, so I called it like so and it worked - explorer figured out the right exe. That'll only work on Windows though. FLfile.runCommandLine(explorer.exe + docPath); 2. Use Guy Watson's JSAPI File System extension (Windows NT/2000/XP only) http://www.flashguru.co.uk/extensions/ hth. best, - rajat -- Rajat Paharia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bunchball.com http://www.rootburn.com On 1/27/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can JSFL at least run a batch file? Right now, I can't seem to find it if it can, but someone was just telling me they thought they could load an external app for editing AS files via a SWF based panel in the IDE. On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guessed as much. it's interesting to me: why allow for the creation of a projector that can do it, when you can play the SWF IN a Flash player.exe? make sense? I mean, if it takes an EXE to run the SWF (whether it's in the IDE in a panel or in the standalone player or created projector), what's the diff? I mean, the criteria's the same - Local, exe running a SWF. On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doing so would be a breach of security. Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
I see what you're saying, and yeah, i thought about that - hence my question. What's the difference between me opting to run a projector and running a SWF in a panel in the IDE (exe) OR the local Flash Player (exe)? Aren't I opting in for the same exact things? I guess there's gotta be some holes in that, but it seems like there's close enough similarities in use case that I could make an argument for Adobe to put in the ability to do such things, but warn the user (just like they do with the sandbox security). Doesn't that seem reasonable? On 1/28/06, Ramon Tayag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose it's because when a user runs an exe, they are supposed to understand the risks. A swf was designed for the web, and allowing a swf from a browser to do all those System calls would be dangerous. On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guessed as much. it's interesting to me: why allow for the creation of a projector that can do it, when you can play the SWF IN a Flash player.exe? make sense? I mean, if it takes an EXE to run the SWF (whether it's in the IDE in a panel or in the standalone player or created projector), what's the diff? I mean, the criteria's the same - Local, exe running a SWF. On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: doing so would be a breach of security. Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Ramon Miguel M. Tayag ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] absolute path moviecliploader+ draw
Clips I loaded with an absolute path (www.blabla.nl/folder/file.jpg) Moviecliploader in flash 8 *would visibly *(!*) load* but the mc-reference to the loaded mc would *NOT draw* to Bitmap (they would but the resuling bitmap was empty, default new bitmap color) Properties of the mc, like width etcetera where accessible though. I did not change my script, just changed the moviecliploaders url to a relative path (folder/file.jpg) and the problem was solved... no security message whatsoever. veryyy strange. This problem was not there (absolute or relative path) if I used the swf and the jpg's locally. It only happened when the files where on the same domain on a server. any other folks had this problem ? ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] RE: Lines of code in a Flash project
Functional lines per hour. Which rewards sloppy and inefficent code rather than clean OOP. Randy Tinfow IMAGE PLANT ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Sandy 0.2, a 3D API for Flash
Paul, I posted this on the forum as a tutorial on the technique. I believe it's slower than Immervision's because it uses class libraries rather than timeline code. The tradeoff is simplicity of coding. I explain in the forum page that it's slow and will remain slow until the AS3 version. Although I'm sure we'll see what optimizations are possible, I don't think an AS2 version could get any faster than Immervision's, which is not fast. The future of this kind of application in Flash clearly resides in AS3 - and in further development of Sandy! -A On 1/28/06, Paul Neave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 28/01/06, Alan Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've posted a cubic panorama example in the Sandy forum: http://sandy.media-box.net/forum/index.php?act=STf=51t=5126 Here's the example online for y'all to see: http://www.neave.com/temp/pano/ Some optimisation is still needed... it's still slow compared to Immervision's version here: http://www.immervision.com/immerv2/en/multimedia/multimedia_technology/multimedia_technology_flash.php But definitely a good start! Paul. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How to auto-maximze font size
I've tried searching for scripts on this subject, but the subject is just too ambiguous. Here's what I'm after: You (or your designer) has laid out a movieClip with an allocated dynamic textField to be populated with un unknown string. Perhaps the string is going to come from a translation table, or it will be an alert message, or the name of the user. At runtime, you want the text to be displayed at the largest font size possible, without exceeding the boundaries allocated by the designer. Also, you don't want words to be wrapped mid-word, but (optionally) the string can be wrapped between words. Ideally, if the designer decides to distort or resize the movieClip (or any parent) that contains the textField, the script will still work. This last criterion may be beyond the scope of MX04, where I've found that the formatting of dynamic text is often compromised when the parent is distorted. Has this been improved in F8? The basic approach that I've tried is to increase the size of the font one point at a time until it doesn't fit and then decrease it one point at a time until it does fit. The trick seems to be finding a reliable way to test whether or not the string fits. this test works sometimes, but not always: stringFits = textField._height = textField.textHeight textField._width = textField.textWidth; I wonder if the textFormat.getTextExtent() function might work better, but I'm quite fuzzy on its use. I would really appreciate any help with this problem that anybody would offer. I'm afraid I'm not a very sophisticated AS coder, as I spend the vast majority of my time coding in Director. Thanks! Andrew Sinning ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] the tool used to make this presentation
Hi folks, do you think this presentation is made by hand with flash or they use a particular tool? http://www.macromedia.com/resources/business/rich_internet_apps/overview/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to auto-maximze font size
You can just set the entire string and then set the _width and _height values of the encompassing movieclip to be whatever you like. On 28/01/06, Andrew Sinning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've tried searching for scripts on this subject, but the subject is just too ambiguous. Here's what I'm after: You (or your designer) has laid out a movieClip with an allocated dynamic textField to be populated with un unknown string. Perhaps the string is going to come from a translation table, or it will be an alert message, or the name of the user. At runtime, you want the text to be displayed at the largest font size possible, without exceeding the boundaries allocated by the designer. Also, you don't want words to be wrapped mid-word, but (optionally) the string can be wrapped between words. Ideally, if the designer decides to distort or resize the movieClip (or any parent) that contains the textField, the script will still work. This last criterion may be beyond the scope of MX04, where I've found that the formatting of dynamic text is often compromised when the parent is distorted. Has this been improved in F8? The basic approach that I've tried is to increase the size of the font one point at a time until it doesn't fit and then decrease it one point at a time until it does fit. The trick seems to be finding a reliable way to test whether or not the string fits. this test works sometimes, but not always: stringFits = textField._height = textField.textHeight textField._width = textField.textWidth; I wonder if the textFormat.getTextExtent() function might work better, but I'm quite fuzzy on its use. I would really appreciate any help with this problem that anybody would offer. I'm afraid I'm not a very sophisticated AS coder, as I spend the vast majority of my time coding in Director. Thanks! Andrew Sinning ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- Yotam Laufer | Flash Developer | mobile +44 (0) 79 205 17 212 | skype: ubermutt ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
Trying to cut down on hundreds of lines of repeated code with functions, but I have a real newbie question: What is the best way to get functions to fire in sequence. (have function 1 wait until function 2 is finished etc.) Right now the functions below all fire at the same time. function1 () function2 () function3() Thanks, --dan ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Q: All OOP or ??????
Hans hit the nail on the head. I break it down to is it a small project, scoped defined or not? If not then I throw some things on the timeline. But more and more I'm moving away from that. It is taking *more* time to do it non OOP than it is to do it quick. With scope creep comes more code, more maintanence. What I ask myself on new projects is what parts of this can I reuse? Can I put this behavior in a class or a component? It's more work up front to make your classes for your daily tasks (not much more work) but on project 2 or project 3 your work will pay off. Judah j.c.wichman wrote: Hi, You are probably going to hear this a lot: it depends. You'll find a lot of people doing 1, you'll find a lot doing 2... 3 4 5 6 etc. For example, (just a few examples, books could probably be written on this subject), an animation of a car driving down a road, sliding, going through corners etc: - could be an animation on a timeline - could be coded using positions, vectors etc - could be coded using displacements maps - could be coded by recording all the positions of an object during a tween and playing it back (altered or not) - ..? Which is the most appropriate to your project? Do the animations have to be very specific, are they updated a lot? When they do have to be updated, do you have to go to heaps of code, just becoz u have a timelinephobia? Etc etc These are all questions u could ask yourself. I took the example of an animation, but you could ask these kinds of things for databases as well (which database? One or more? Do we have to switch between dbs? Etc). No matter what I think u should be able to answer the 'why?' questions for yourself. Why do I do it like this? For example, why do I use a timeline animation in case A, and a coded animation in case B? Well because in case A the animation is well defined and very simple, and I want to be able to update it quickly, in case B the animation is very complex, it depends on factors like gravity and the like, and I don't want to go there timeline wise. What? So you use different options at the same time! Sometimes yes ;). The beauty of grey ;). Note that I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all, because the issues you raised are issues I think a lot of us struggle with everyday (I know I do!), so I don't claim to have all the wisdom, I'll just try to give you one view (my view) of the story. Anywayz, back to the example... So different options at the same time... The animation example is taken from real life, from a project I'm working on as we speak. I always try to think of it as, if I don't have a clue about HOW I'm going to do it (99%) I stop and remind myself of the WHAT (as I should do all the time :)). So.. We have an abstraction: an Animation class. What does it do? It plays, it stops, etc. How? No clue, an Animation subclass could be an animation built on top of Fuse, an movieclip with a timeline, a handwritten piece of code, I don't care, as long as it plays and stops and So I don't think this falls within either option 1 or 2, but within option x... And I wish I knew how to describe option X :). With regard to design patterns and MVC... First of all, I think design patterns are a means to an end. Design patterns have multiple goals/attributes: - they solve (part of) a difficult architectural problem for you - they increase reuse, robustness, maintainability - they help documentation your code, instead of describing class a,b,c,d you say, I used this pattern, and these classes play these roles - they might increase the complexity of your application Looking at the second point, reuse, robustness etc, the first patterns that come to mind, might not even be considered as patterns.. Low coupling, high cohesion, that kind of thing. Even without learning dozens of patterns, a lot of times the questions are as simple as: - if at one point I want to incorporate this into my programm, what happens? - if I pull this string, what happens? - if ... - if .. - if . If the answers to these kind of questions are: well, then I'd have to throw it all away and start over, some of the basic patterns may have been overlooked. On the other hand the answer might as well be: listen, you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, you are treading outside of the scope this code was meant to handle. One more note on design patterns, one of the most difficult things I encountered is that sometimes these patterns have not different goals but OPPOSING goals, one might increase reuse but break encapsulation, one might improve encapsulation but break reuse etc. With regard to the MVC pattern, I often collapse the controller and view. Most important for me are clear cut responsibilities, a model with no dependencies on the view. If another view has to be created, I might refactor my collapsed view/controller. Lot of times there is even discussion on whether it IS collapsed or not. For example 2 options: - I write a movieclip, put a few
Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
function1() {
function2();
}
function2() {
function3();
}
You could also use onEnterFrame to conditionally check for flags
indicating the progress of execution:
var f1Fired = false;
var f2Fired = false;
var f3Fired = false;
this.onEnterFrame = function() {
if (f1Fired) {
trace(f1Fired);
function2();
} else if (f2Fired) {
trace(f2Fired);
function3();
} else if (f3Fired) {
trace(f3Fired);
} else {
function1();
}
}
function1() {
f1Fired = true;
}
function2() {
f2Fired = true;
}
function3() {
f3Fired = true;
}
Or setInterval could be employed, but it sounds like you need
sequential executions of your functions, in which case setInterval is
inappropriate.
hth
Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
Thanks! I can tell right away that functions are going to save me a ton
of troubleshooting!
Do you know if they speed up player performance as well?
--dan
function1() {
function2();
}
function2() {
function3();
}
You could also use onEnterFrame to conditionally check for flags
indicating the progress of execution:
var f1Fired = false;
var f2Fired = false;
var f3Fired = false;
this.onEnterFrame = function() {
if (f1Fired) {
trace(f1Fired);
function2();
} else if (f2Fired) {
trace(f2Fired);
function3();
} else if (f3Fired) {
trace(f3Fired);
} else {
function1();
}
}
function1() {
f1Fired = true;
}
function2() {
f2Fired = true;
}
function3() {
f3Fired = true;
}
Or setInterval could be employed, but it sounds like you need
sequential executions of your functions, in which case setInterval is
inappropriate.
hth
Mike
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Re: [Flashcoders] Q: All OOP or ??????
What I ask myself on new projects is what parts of this can I reuse? Can I put this behavior in a class or a component? It's more work up front to make your classes for your daily tasks (not much more work) but on project 2 or project 3 your work will pay off. What's more, OOP design patterns often have powerful solutions to complex problems. If you get comfortable with OOP -- not just using objects, but the true nature of object orientation -- you'll have an easier time when a really big problem hits you on the head. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
The more of them you use, the slower the performance. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] AMFPHP for commercial projects
The protocol outputs data in open text. If they wanted the protocol to be proprietary it would have to be encoded or ciphered in a way that could not be decompiled or read by the end user. It is also based on an open standard; therefore, absolutely legal to utilize. AMF is essentially a lightweight binary version of SOAP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of GregoryN Sent: January 26, 2006 1:21 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] AMFPHP for commercial projects Thanks a lot to all of you for answering. I'm quite happy with AMFPHP too, it's good, reliable and nice to use. The only thing I was not sure is legal issues and/or Adobe plans on it. However, now I'm almost ready to recommend AMFPHP to clients :-). Maybe some Adobe guys can say a word in this thread? -- Best regards, GregoryN http://GOusable.com Flash components development. Usability services. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.14.23/243 - Release Date: 27/01/2006 ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand(exec, myprogram.exe) WITHOUT a projector?
Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox violation for the player to be able to execute an app? Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work. The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application. That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to access. Regards hank On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
That's a drag! Well, I'll use them sparingly -- they helped alot in this project. Thanks Again! --dan The more of them you use, the slower the performance. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
Nooo, don't start thinking functions are slow. They're just slower than inline code. Functions are the first step in making more reusable code, use liberally! :O) Ade -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of dls Sent: 28 January 2006 22:20 To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence That's a drag! Well, I'll use them sparingly -- they helped alot in this project. Thanks Again! --dan The more of them you use, the slower the performance. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to call functions in sequence
Yes, don't think in terms of avoiding functions. If something needs to be repeated, it's a candidate for a function. Performance is important for a game, but if an app's object-orientated design makes it a millisecond slower than procedural (inline) code, that's acceptable if you get the benefits of reusable code (more functions). Sorry if I gave you the wrong impression. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] Re: Q: All OOP or ??????
For example, (just a few examples, books could probably be written on this subject), You actually wrote book in your post :) j.c.wichman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, You are probably going to hear this a lot: it depends. You'll find a lot of people doing 1, you'll find a lot doing 2... 3 4 5 6 etc. For example, (just a few examples, books could probably be written on this subject), an animation of a car driving down a road, sliding, going through corners etc: - could be an animation on a timeline - could be coded using positions, vectors etc - could be coded using displacements maps - could be coded by recording all the positions of an object during a tween and playing it back (altered or not) - ..? Which is the most appropriate to your project? Do the animations have to be very specific, are they updated a lot? When they do have to be updated, do you have to go to heaps of code, just becoz u have a timelinephobia? Etc etc These are all questions u could ask yourself. I took the example of an animation, but you could ask these kinds of things for databases as well (which database? One or more? Do we have to switch between dbs? Etc). No matter what I think u should be able to answer the 'why?' questions for yourself. Why do I do it like this? For example, why do I use a timeline animation in case A, and a coded animation in case B? Well because in case A the animation is well defined and very simple, and I want to be able to update it quickly, in case B the animation is very complex, it depends on factors like gravity and the like, and I don't want to go there timeline wise. What? So you use different options at the same time! Sometimes yes ;). The beauty of grey ;). Note that I don't mean to sound like a know-it-all, because the issues you raised are issues I think a lot of us struggle with everyday (I know I do!), so I don't claim to have all the wisdom, I'll just try to give you one view (my view) of the story. Anywayz, back to the example... So different options at the same time... The animation example is taken from real life, from a project I'm working on as we speak. I always try to think of it as, if I don't have a clue about HOW I'm going to do it (99%) I stop and remind myself of the WHAT (as I should do all the time :)). So.. We have an abstraction: an Animation class. What does it do? It plays, it stops, etc. How? No clue, an Animation subclass could be an animation built on top of Fuse, an movieclip with a timeline, a handwritten piece of code, I don't care, as long as it plays and stops and So I don't think this falls within either option 1 or 2, but within option x... And I wish I knew how to describe option X :). With regard to design patterns and MVC... First of all, I think design patterns are a means to an end. Design patterns have multiple goals/attributes: - they solve (part of) a difficult architectural problem for you - they increase reuse, robustness, maintainability - they help documentation your code, instead of describing class a,b,c,d you say, I used this pattern, and these classes play these roles - they might increase the complexity of your application Looking at the second point, reuse, robustness etc, the first patterns that come to mind, might not even be considered as patterns.. Low coupling, high cohesion, that kind of thing. Even without learning dozens of patterns, a lot of times the questions are as simple as: - if at one point I want to incorporate this into my programm, what happens? - if I pull this string, what happens? - if ... - if .. - if . If the answers to these kind of questions are: well, then I'd have to throw it all away and start over, some of the basic patterns may have been overlooked. On the other hand the answer might as well be: listen, you are trying to fit a square peg into a round hole, you are treading outside of the scope this code was meant to handle. One more note on design patterns, one of the most difficult things I encountered is that sometimes these patterns have not different goals but OPPOSING goals, one might increase reuse but break encapsulation, one might improve encapsulation but break reuse etc. With regard to the MVC pattern, I often collapse the controller and view. Most important for me are clear cut responsibilities, a model with no dependencies on the view. If another view has to be created, I might refactor my collapsed view/controller. Lot of times there is even discussion on whether it IS collapsed or not. For example 2 options: - I write a movieclip, put a few components in it(view) , and write a class (controller) and connect it to the movieclip in the property dialog. Is it collapsed? - I write a class which creates all the components by code. (this might be clearer) If I am certain up front there will be multiple views, I might put more time into the
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
it does breach the security sandbox violation and therefore, if you want a plain ole swf to execute a fscommand - it won't work. The jsfl solution is for the authoring environment - but otherwise, imagine the havoc you could create if you could have a swf in a browser or elsewhere execute an external app. Hello,virus land. Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox violation for the player to be able to execute an app? Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work. The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application. That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to access. Regards hank On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] AS2 Method for Resizing Screen
I have been trying to use a delegate for the Stage and have been having
problems:
/*
* This works but hate calling _root and would like to include a Boolean into
the LetsResize function.
*/
private function mainController ( mc:MovieClip ) {
var resizeThis = new Object();
resizeThis.onResize = LetsResize;
Stage.addListener(resizeThis);
LetsResize();
{
private function LetsResize():Void
{
_root.anObject._x = Stage.width-20;
}
/*
* This does not work and how I would prefer to get it to work
*/
private function mainController (mc:MovieClip{
{
.
// Error Rec'd: There is no method with the name 'addEventListener'
Stage.addEventListener(resizeThis, Delegate.create(this,LetsResize))
..
}
private LetsResize(evt:Object):Void
{
anObject._x = Stage.width-20;
}
Does anyone know what may be going on or a workaround where I will not be
accessing root?
I have used the delegate for many other things and usually it sends over the
functions.
Any assistance would be most appreciated,
-rob
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Q: All OOP or ??????
I agree with j.c. Being a fairly young developer I find myself bringing in all sorts of resources in to my projects. It all depends on the project and what it entails. The beauty of OOP is that it's reusable and once your library is big enough you'll find that the work you've put into it will pay off, making your life easier. Anyways that's my two cents. -juegas ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Q: All OOP or ??????
Juegas, you nailed in on the head. It may be uncomfortable at first to create classes and may take an extra hour or two to create quality code. If you are interested in making a career of software development (assume so if you are on flashcoders list) and want to be involved with Rich-Internet Applications you cannot get around OOP programming. Regarding the tweens and timelines, I always thought it was for artistic guys that have a superb eye for user interface. Which is great, nothing is better than a quality UI guy. Projects that I have been involved with work best when you have two guys around Flash Development: an AS2 OOP software developer and a UI Flash developer. A few more cents. -Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Flash guru Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2006 7:23 PM To: Flashcoders mailing list Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Q: All OOP or ?? I agree with j.c. Being a fairly young developer I find myself bringing in all sorts of resources in to my projects. It all depends on the project and what it entails. The beauty of OOP is that it's reusable and once your library is big enough you'll find that the work you've put into it will pay off, making your life easier. Anyways that's my two cents. -juegas ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
You're missing what I'm saying Stacey - In a container OTHER than a plugin/activeX control. The player knows when it's in the local FlashPlayer.exe or the IDE (exe) - so, that's nearly the same as having the SWF wrapped in a projector.exe (FlashPlayer.exe + SWF) - see my point? of course - lock down the browser plugins/controls - I totaly agree. But if you see what I'm saying above, you can't discount the fact that the ONLY difference between a projector and FlashPlayer.exe+SWF is that that later is not compiled. But the reasoning for viewing the content is identical (opt-in execution). That's all I'm saying. John On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does breach the security sandbox violation and therefore, if you want a plain ole swf to execute a fscommand - it won't work. The jsfl solution is for the authoring environment - but otherwise, imagine the havoc you could create if you could have a swf in a browser or elsewhere execute an external app. Hello,virus land. Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox violation for the player to be able to execute an app? Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work. The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application. That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to access. Regards hank On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
gotcha. I'm an admittant skimmer at times:) You're missing what I'm saying Stacey - In a container OTHER than a plugin/activeX control. The player knows when it's in the local FlashPlayer.exe or the IDE (exe) - so, that's nearly the same as having the SWF wrapped in a projector.exe (FlashPlayer.exe + SWF) - see my point? of course - lock down the browser plugins/controls - I totaly agree. But if you see what I'm saying above, you can't discount the fact that the ONLY difference between a projector and FlashPlayer.exe+SWF is that that later is not compiled. But the reasoning for viewing the content is identical (opt-in execution). That's all I'm saying. John On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: it does breach the security sandbox violation and therefore, if you want a plain ole swf to execute a fscommand - it won't work. The jsfl solution is for the authoring environment - but otherwise, imagine the havoc you could create if you could have a swf in a browser or elsewhere execute an external app. Hello,virus land. Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox violation for the player to be able to execute an app? Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work. The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application. That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to access. Regards hank On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand(exec, myprogram.exe) WITHOUT a projector?
Yeah, I think that's what I'm now realizing. and yes, not the browser, but the FlashPlayer or at least running in a Panel in the IDE. On 1/28/06, hank williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you mean in a browser? Wouldnt this be a horrible security/sandbox violation for the player to be able to execute an app? Perhaps you mean the stand alone player that isnt in the browser but isnt a projector. If that is the case, I would not expect it to work. The fscommand is designed to communicate with the host application. That is either the browser or a projector or some parent app. I would imagine the flash player just has what is necessary to run flash without a full complement of functions that fscommand might try to access. Regards hank On 1/28/06, John Grden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible? I can't seem to make it work UNLESS I load the swf into the FLash player, then do a save as projector. any possible way that the player could handle this without the projector? -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- John Grden - Blitz ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] fscommand('exec', 'myprogram.exe') WITHOUT a projector?
;) me too, so no worries Thanks Stacey, On 1/28/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gotcha. I'm an admittant skimmer at times:) ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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