Re: [Flashcoders] CLICK event not getting fired
Anna, Whether it's MouseEvent or Event makes no difference - since the MouseEvent class is derived from Event, either will do unless you actually want to access properties/methods defined only in MouseEvent. Sajid, As Latcho says, you need something graphical to click on. You could use the .graphics member to draw a box on screen, using beginFill/drawRect/endFill. This could be made invisible by setting .alpha=0. There are other options - depends really on what you're trying to do. Adding a listener to the stage object would be one solution. Incidentally, unless you need a timeline/multiple frames for your clip, you can use a Sprite instead of a MovieClip as the parent object. Sprite is just like MovieClip - just it doesn't have a timeline. It's the generic use-for-everything visual class of AS3, whereas MovieClip was the equivalent in AS2. HTH, Ian On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:33 AM, Sajid Saiyedsajid.fl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Anna, Thanks. Forgot to mention that I tried MouseEvent as well and no luck :( Seems so strange I am sure I am missing something basic here. Sajid ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] actionscript 3 block rationale
Hey list,
does anyone know the cool rationale behind the fact that the compiler won't
allow me to execute a completely sane piece of code such as:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
}
(getting a redefined blablah variable, to which there is no workaround but
to rename the loop variables I think)
But WILL allow me to do something stupid like:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:int = 0; i 10; i++)
{
trace (this[j]);
}
var j:Object = null;
}
:)
JC
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Re: [Flashcoders] actionscript 3 block rationale
JC,
AS3 has no block scope.
Whenever you write 'var x' inside a method, that declaration
(effectively) gets moved to the 'top' of the method.
So at a compiler level, this:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
}
becomes this:
private function _demo():void
{
var i:Number;
var i:Number; /// Second definition!
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
// Evil stuff
}
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
// Evil stuff
}
}
And this:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:int = 0; i 10; i++)
{
trace (this[j]);
}
var j:Object = null;
}
becomes this:
private function _demo():void
{
var j:Object;
var i:int;
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
trace(this[j]);
}
j=null;
}
I find it totally counterintuitive. It's a language spec thing. It was
the same in AS2 - although, interestingly, Nicolas Cannasse's MTASC
compiler added block scope and made AS2 work 'properly' - so it's not
like it's an issue at bytecode level.
Ian
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Hans
Wichmanj.c.wich...@objectpainters.com wrote:
Hey list,
does anyone know the cool rationale behind the fact that the compiler won't
allow me to execute a completely sane piece of code such as:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
}
(getting a redefined blablah variable, to which there is no workaround but
to rename the loop variables I think)
But WILL allow me to do something stupid like:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:int = 0; i 10; i++)
{
trace (this[j]);
}
var j:Object = null;
}
:)
JC
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Re: [Flashcoders] actionscript 3 block rationale
ok thanks, as i expected then.
Glad we agree it's counterintuitive, and although mtasc \^^\ oo /^^/ ROCKS,
i like as3 too much to go back though:))
thanks Ian
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net wrote:
JC,
AS3 has no block scope.
Whenever you write 'var x' inside a method, that declaration
(effectively) gets moved to the 'top' of the method.
So at a compiler level, this:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
}
becomes this:
private function _demo():void
{
var i:Number;
var i:Number; /// Second definition!
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
// Evil stuff
}
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
// Evil stuff
}
}
And this:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:int = 0; i 10; i++)
{
trace (this[j]);
}
var j:Object = null;
}
becomes this:
private function _demo():void
{
var j:Object;
var i:int;
for (i=0;i10;i++)
{
trace(this[j]);
}
j=null;
}
I find it totally counterintuitive. It's a language spec thing. It was
the same in AS2 - although, interestingly, Nicolas Cannasse's MTASC
compiler added block scope and made AS2 work 'properly' - so it's not
like it's an issue at bytecode level.
Ian
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Hans
Wichmanj.c.wich...@objectpainters.com wrote:
Hey list,
does anyone know the cool rationale behind the fact that the compiler
won't
allow me to execute a completely sane piece of code such as:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
for (var i:Number = 0; i 10;i++) {
//evil stuff here
}
}
(getting a redefined blablah variable, to which there is no workaround
but
to rename the loop variables I think)
But WILL allow me to do something stupid like:
private function _demo():void {
for (var i:int = 0; i 10; i++)
{
trace (this[j]);
}
var j:Object = null;
}
:)
JC
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Re: [Flashcoders] CLICK event not getting fired
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Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Sending 2 HTTP requests from a webchat-like app
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[Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
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Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] Next big 'speedy' thing ?
; furthermore I was talking about the xml-code outcome of this process: http://www.gotoandlearn.com/play?id=110 Yes, I got that, but not sure I get what you're asking about it. Yes, FXG is a new graphics format for Adobe graphic files. Catalyst will produce your MXML with interactivity for you to continue to refine in Flashbuilder or other tools. Catalyst will greatly help in generating rich user interfaces with interactivity - saves you a lot of hassle with skinning files and then programming them in Actionscript/MXML. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
[Flashcoders] negative scale
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Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
You might look at Spring Roo to see where the generation of code is going. It is very slick. It works very nicely from the UML model. Document the classes and atomic properties. Document the relationships. Order has a property which is a set of Order Details and Order Details has a reference to an Order Document the finders I want a findByOder on OrderDetails, I want a findByCustomer on Order It can tell from the names what you want. Document the names of the controllers you want created. Document the controllers for which you want automatic test scripts. request that Security be added Feed your little script into Roo and you get a working Java webapp with CRUD for all your objects. Import that into Eclipse (STS version) and customize it. Still learning how to use it but it is pretty slick. The visual appearance is horrible but it is set up for CSS so it can be fixed up. All of the CRUD functions are on a single page, so you do have to go in and remap your content, menus and functions onto URLs and pages that make sense. It depends on Spring and AOP very heavily. The code generated is very, very concise and readable. I am just getting used to AOP and it looks pretty intimidating. If we only had Spring for haXe.. Ron Matt Gitchell wrote: I figured this is where we'd end up. I code in either environment with comparable speed, honestly, it's just getting used to the workflow. Honest! Now whether that means I code like the freakin' wind in either or am slow as hell in both I'll leave for you to decide. Rather than seeing the Eclipse-based methodology as 'stupid,' I decided to consider it merely different and have done some tweaks to get it the way I like it, which now I do. And yes, I do 'think ahead' plenty, but that still doesn't mean that things don't get moved around all that often. In my particular freelance world, I end up dealing with 3rd party IT and backend guys and gals, subcontractors of varying skill, clients who want to change scope, clients who DO change scope (though they generally get punished financially), the gamut. Some of these experiences mean changes of plans, which means that the refactoring aspect is handy and saves me time. The debug stuff is also very handy. I write code, compile, test; I repeat this until I have a project done, for the most part. That means that I engage the debugger more than just occasionally, I really like having that data there. I like these additional features, and it's worth the money to me to have them all part of the same tool. If it saves me, say, 10 hours over the course of owning the software, I've more than paid for it, and I've more than paid for it. Some of us get to work in worlds where we define all variables at the outset of the project. We then see our projects built exactly to the class diagrams we built when we set out to start, and we don't deviate. We then get to write thousands of lines of perfect code, with perfect structure, then compile it once and find that we've removed every listener, destroyed every bitmap, caught every error, forseen every use case. I am not one of those people, so I've bought a tool (and use a platform) that helps compensate for that. --Matt On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.netwrote: The act of writing Actionscript in FlashDevelop is, IMO, better. FD's code completion and code gen is easier and faster. Because code completion and code gen is the majority of what I do from moment to moment as I'm writing, it's the better tool. Refactoring and debugging are not what I spend the majority of my time doing. I have Flex Builder. I use it sometimes, but not always, and generally I use it with Build Automatically turned on while I code in FD on the same project and it will spot compile-time errors on the fly. FDT is a great (albeit expensive) tool, but for day to day coding, I prefer FlashDevelop because it helps me write code faster. It might not help me debug faster, but I spend a lot less time doing that than actually writing code, which is where FlashDevelop shines. I'm confused by all these comments about the strength of the refactoring tool being a deciding factor. Do you really move stuff around packages that often? Do you really rename entire classes that often? I find that thinking ahead solves that problem, and when it comes up, Find and Replace in files does a great job, even if it's a few Find and Replaces instead of just one Refactor command. Believe me, I (and many others) have asked the FD guys for this feature, and it's something they're working on adding. However, it's not something I use often enough to outweigh the benefits FD provides when actually writing code. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning - be a geek, in rockstar style! Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com 3GB free storage you can sync with your mobile device or Mac or PC. Check out https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTI1MjcxMzk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Document the classes and atomic properties. What's an atomic property? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] negative scale
Using negative scales works... I've just double checked. Cheers Juan Pablo Califano 2009/8/18 Joel Stransky j...@stranskydesign.com Know of any good workarounds for when you need to set the scale to negative? as in mySprite.scaleX = -1; //scaleX only accepts positive integers. -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
I highly suggest reading Practices of an Agile Developer http://www.pragprog.com/titles/pad/practices-of-an-agile-developer Use KISS. Stay DRY. Code less. Code smart (code S-Mart). Use smart shortcuts when they're available to you. Implicit boolean coercion is one such shortcut, among many others. We need to get things done. We don't have the luxury that academia has to argue about theory for months and years. You've spent as much time arguing about this as people typically spend typing out Boolean expressions in the first place. Honestly, if you're finding an extra ten or so characters a burden, you may have other problems that are unrelated to the value of using implicit Boolean evaluation. This has nothing to do with getting things done or arguing about theory. But anyway, arguably, keeping it simple doesn't mean keeping it brief. An explicit Boolean expression is simpler to read and understand than an implicit Boolean evaluation. Not all languages support implicit Boolean evaluation, so I have to remember one set of rules for some environments and a different set for others - not simple. Again, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with implicit Boolean evaluation, I just think it's a mistake to believe it's inherently superior to an explicit, slightly longer Boolean expression, to the point of telling people they should replace one with another. And as much as I like Ash, I'm not sure I want to take coding advice from the guy who couldn't remember klaatu barada nikto - maybe he was too enamored of shortcuts? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
What's an atomic property? A property that is a primitive type (string, int, Boolean, etc), I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Why not just call it a primitive then? Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:22 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc What's an atomic property? A property that is a primitive type (string, int, Boolean, etc), I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Dave Watts wrote: What's an atomic property? A property that is a primitive type (string, int, Boolean, etc), I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders That is what I was trying to convey. Thanks Ron ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Merrill, Jason wrote: Why not just call it a primitive then? That would have been exactly the right thing to say/write. Sorry. Couldn't think of the right word at the time. Just getting old, I guess. Ron Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community -Original Message- From: flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com [mailto:flashcoders-boun...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Dave Watts Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:22 AM To: Flash Coders List Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc What's an atomic property? A property that is a primitive type (string, int, Boolean, etc), I think. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
No, it won't work on Macs ;) Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ Sidney de Koning wrote: Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Why not just call it a primitive then? That would have been exactly the right thing to say/write. Sorry. Couldn't think of the right word at the time. Just getting old, I guess. Ah, np, I thought maybe it was some hip new term or something I hadn't heard of! Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
Why not just call it a primitive then? Well, while they're generally the same sort of thing, they can be different - in many languages, a string isn't really a primitive type but represents an instance of a String object or an array of characters, etc. I think the point of calling them atomic is to indicate that they don't have properties of their own that correspond to other objects. (atomic == indivisible). Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Ugh, then you go and use an if statement without brackets, and on the same
line to boot! I for one, would not want to maintain your code.
This is in jest of course. I am not going to say doing things shorthand is
wrong, but there are some very valid merits to not doing the shorthand
methods.
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Steven Sacks flash...@stevensacks.netwrote:
Here's the best way to write that. No try catch required.
if (myDO myDO.parent) myDO.parent.removeChild(myDO);
Keith H wrote:
Steven,
Maybe its just me but...
Just doing a Boolean check on DisplayObjects always put my scripts in high
risk of runtime errors.
Especially in the case of cleanup operations.
Sometimes I might have a function that attempts removing a DisplayObject
that has not been added to the stage or has already been removed.
So I check if the stage property is null for almost all cases now.
var myDO:Sprite=new Sprite();
try {
//if (myDO) { //Creates runtime error
if (myDO myDO.stage != null) {
myDO.parent.removeChild(myDO);
} } catch (e:Error) {
trace(e.message);
}
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Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
Oh shiite ... on a mac its CMD :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto wrote: No, it won't work on Macs ;) Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ Sidney de Koning wrote: Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning - be a geek, in rockstar style! Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com 3GB free storage you can sync with your mobile device or Mac or PC. Check out https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTI1MjcxMzk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Ugh, then you go and use an if statement without brackets, and on the same line to boot! I for one, would not want to maintain your code. Hey, you're just lucky he's not using the ternary operator! After all, that would be the simplest approach. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
(atomic == indivisible). You need to do some reading on string theory. :) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 4:20 PM, Dave Wattsdwa...@figleaf.com wrote: Again, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with implicit Boolean evaluation, I just think it's a mistake to believe it's inherently superior to an explicit, slightly longer Boolean expression, to the point of telling people they should replace one with another. Amen. Ian ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] mac vs pc
One for which you shouldn't call the setter unless you're wearing a lead apron and goggles. ;-) Ian On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Merrill, Jasonjason.merr...@bankofamerica.com wrote: Document the classes and atomic properties. What's an atomic property? Jason Merrill ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container withoutusing addChild() method.
For the record, I love these get your nerd on, see if you can out-nerd others discussions related to Actionscript. Bring it! Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container withoutusing addChild() method.
And I'd love to see all your shorthands, unesthaetic as hell ! Get your darkest bitwises out. Don't forget to add in the disclaimer: This shorthand and the accompanying code are provided as-is. You may use it as you please. You may *not* hold me liable for any damage caused to you, your company, your neighbors or anyone else, nor for the non-maintainability of the written code as a result of implementing parts from this post. Whatever you do with this post, the provided shorthand or the accompanying code is at your own risk. Latcho Merrill, Jason wrote: For the record, I love these get your nerd on, see if you can out-nerd others discussions related to Actionscript. Bring it! Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
Thanks, you're a big help champ. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sidney de Koning sid...@funky-monkey.nlwrote: Oh shiite ... on a mac its CMD :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto wrote: No, it won't work on Macs ;) Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ Sidney de Koning wrote: Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning - be a geek, in rockstar style! Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com 3GB free storage you can sync with your mobile device or Mac or PC. Check out https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTI1MjcxMzk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
I didn't see a reponse from Ash. Yet another email lost to the ether. :( Dave Watts wrote: And as much as I like Ash, I'm not sure I want to take coding advice from the guy who couldn't remember klaatu barada nikto - maybe he was too enamored of shortcuts? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
That was supposed to be a winky, not a frowny. Steven Sacks wrote: I didn't see a reponse from Ash. Yet another email lost to the ether. :( Dave Watts wrote: And as much as I like Ash, I'm not sure I want to take coding advice from the guy who couldn't remember klaatu barada nikto - maybe he was too enamored of shortcuts? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Dave, come on. Take a stand on the issue. Stop straddling the fence. Pick a side. Im or Ex? I'm not about writing cryptic PERL-like statements, but writing != null is a waste of time. It's obviously a null comparison (by nature of it being an instance). Calling it out as such is redundant. It also lends itself to very readable code with inline ORs. var value:String = foo || bar; If foo is null, value = bar. Great for default values such as with XML. var value:String = x...@foo || ; Very readable and so much better than var value:String = ; if (x...@foo != undefined) value = x...@foo; ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
Then let me be your champ today. http://greencollective.nl/blog/?p=24 Latcho Joel Stransky wrote: Thanks, you're a big help champ. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sidney de Koning sid...@funky-monkey.nlwrote: Oh shiite ... on a mac its CMD :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto wrote: No, it won't work on Macs ;) Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ Sidney de Koning wrote: Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning - be a geek, in rockstar style! Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com 3GB free storage you can sync with your mobile device or Mac or PC. Check out https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTI1MjcxMzk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Back when I was using AS2 and Javascript || operator was useful to me. I was so glad when AS3 brought default parameters. var value:String = foo || bar; -- Keith H -- www.keith-hair.net Steven Sacks wrote: Dave, come on. Take a stand on the issue. Stop straddling the fence. Pick a side. Im or Ex? I'm not about writing cryptic PERL-like statements, but writing != null is a waste of time. It's obviously a null comparison (by nature of it being an instance). Calling it out as such is redundant. It also lends itself to very readable code with inline ORs. var value:String = foo || bar; If foo is null, value = bar. Great for default values such as with XML. var value:String = x...@foo || ; Very readable and so much better than var value:String = ; if (x...@foo != undefined) value = x...@foo; ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Dave, come on. Take a stand on the issue. Stop straddling the fence. Pick a side. Im or Ex? I think you're missing the point. You're asking a pacifist which army he should join. I really don't have a strong opinion either way. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
The reason you're comfortable straddling the fence is because you don't experience the pain or discomfort associated with a picket sticking into your crotch. Why would that be? ;) How do YOU code? Do you use implicit or explicit? Dave Watts wrote: I think you're missing the point. You're asking a pacifist which army he should join. I really don't have a strong opinion either way. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
The reason you're comfortable straddling the fence is because you don't experience the pain or discomfort associated with a picket sticking into your crotch. Why would that be? ;) Because I used to be in the military, where you routinely get screwed on a daily basis. BOHICA. How do YOU code? Do you use implicit or explicit? It really depends on the language. Since I'm moving (more or less) from Java to AS3, more or less, I'm usually using explicit expressions because that's what people do in Java. On the other hand, in the ColdFusion code I've written, I usually use implicit Boolean evaluation. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Dave Watts wrote: snip It really depends on the language. Since I'm moving (more or less) from Java to AS3, more or less, I'm usually using explicit expressions because that's what people do in Java. On the other hand, in the ColdFusion code I've written, I usually use implicit Boolean evaluation. I don't think writing good code is related to languages, despite the different constructs available between them. I think good coding style is based on simple principles, and brevity or speed of coding is not included. Short coding constructs may be perceived as elegant and aid coding speed, but that wholly misses the point - coding isn't a race nor is optimising the number of bytes in the source code. Showing a deep knowledge of a software language through use of the language in ways that are not so clear to mere mortals less familiar with the language, isn't good. It is rarely a good idea to optimise code by using a faster programming construct that makes the intention of the code less clear. Good coding should be clear - even for those less familiar with the language. Truncated coding constructs may be efficient and even elegant, but will they be easily understandable by someone else (or even the same person much later)? Code minimalism can hide the true intention of the code and introduce unintended behaviour when mistakes are made. When code is expansive (verbose even) the intention of the code is clear. When someone relies on some language behaviour for handling null values, the reader may be left wondering whether the original developer really intended that the code should handle nulls in this way, or is it some accidental happenstance of using that construct? Are nulls really relevant here in this code snippet or not. Testing specifically for nulls is explicit and unambiguous. Maintainability - truncated constructs can sometimes mean that changes for updates mean undoing the efficient constructs that performed well for specific case they were coded for, but will have to be ditched completely for the more complicated case, leaving the updater to unwind the intention of the shorter construct and translate that to the wider case. As far as fast coding goes, everybody likes a helpful ide or editor, but really fast coders really aren't team coders and the need for speed is less important than the need for clarity. I'm not a fast coder. Sometimes I wish I was an even slower coder, because then I'd realise I could code things rather better than going rushing in to get things done. I once worked with a guy who had a clear desk and often sat reading the newspaper. It did attract some critical comment, but that guy had the right idea. Before he started coding he spent a lot of time on the design, getting that right. A faster code editor or fancy programming wouldn't have made him a better developer. He spent most of his time getting it right before his hands hit the keyboard. He was the best developer I ever met. So, in my insignificant opinion - brevity == BAD, fast coding ==BAD. Paul Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
A good CODER must go beyond a good CODE be fast when needed. That's MHO, and It gets clear when we compare the number of lines we use to express ourselves. Leandro Ferreira Sent from Brasília, Brazilian Federal District, Brazil On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 18:17, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote: Dave Watts wrote: snip It really depends on the language. Since I'm moving (more or less) from Java to AS3, more or less, I'm usually using explicit expressions because that's what people do in Java. On the other hand, in the ColdFusion code I've written, I usually use implicit Boolean evaluation. I don't think writing good code is related to languages, despite the different constructs available between them. I think good coding style is based on simple principles, and brevity or speed of coding is not included. Short coding constructs may be perceived as elegant and aid coding speed, but that wholly misses the point - coding isn't a race nor is optimising the number of bytes in the source code. Showing a deep knowledge of a software language through use of the language in ways that are not so clear to mere mortals less familiar with the language, isn't good. It is rarely a good idea to optimise code by using a faster programming construct that makes the intention of the code less clear. Good coding should be clear - even for those less familiar with the language. Truncated coding constructs may be efficient and even elegant, but will they be easily understandable by someone else (or even the same person much later)? Code minimalism can hide the true intention of the code and introduce unintended behaviour when mistakes are made. When code is expansive (verbose even) the intention of the code is clear. When someone relies on some language behaviour for handling null values, the reader may be left wondering whether the original developer really intended that the code should handle nulls in this way, or is it some accidental happenstance of using that construct? Are nulls really relevant here in this code snippet or not. Testing specifically for nulls is explicit and unambiguous. Maintainability - truncated constructs can sometimes mean that changes for updates mean undoing the efficient constructs that performed well for specific case they were coded for, but will have to be ditched completely for the more complicated case, leaving the updater to unwind the intention of the shorter construct and translate that to the wider case. As far as fast coding goes, everybody likes a helpful ide or editor, but really fast coders really aren't team coders and the need for speed is less important than the need for clarity. I'm not a fast coder. Sometimes I wish I was an even slower coder, because then I'd realise I could code things rather better than going rushing in to get things done. I once worked with a guy who had a clear desk and often sat reading the newspaper. It did attract some critical comment, but that guy had the right idea. Before he started coding he spent a lot of time on the design, getting that right. A faster code editor or fancy programming wouldn't have made him a better developer. He spent most of his time getting it right before his hands hit the keyboard. He was the best developer I ever met. So, in my insignificant opinion - brevity == BAD, fast coding ==BAD. Paul Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
RE: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container withoutusing addChild() method.
brevity == BAD So then wouldn't you mean to write, I would consider brevity to be a bad thing... instead? ;) Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] Duplicate multiple lines in FlashDevelop?
That is awesome! On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Latcho spamtha...@gmail.com wrote: Then let me be your champ today. http://greencollective.nl/blog/?p=24 Latcho Joel Stransky wrote: Thanks, you're a big help champ. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 11:58 AM, Sidney de Koning sid...@funky-monkey.nlwrote: Oh shiite ... on a mac its CMD :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Kenneth Kawamoto wrote: No, it won't work on Macs ;) Kenneth Kawamoto http://www.materiaprima.co.uk/ Sidney de Koning wrote: Yeah it is, they call it copy-pasting ;-) The key command is CTRL-C to copy and CTRL-V to paste... Think it even works on a mac too... One extra key command, but still incredibly usefull! ;-) Sorry couldn't help it ... :-) On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:46 PM, Joel Stransky wrote: Seems like it'd be an incredibly useful feature. On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Pedro Taranto ptara...@gmail.com wrote: don't know about multiple lines, but to duplicate a simple line just use CTRL+D -- Pedro Taranto Joel Stransky wrote: Anyone know how? Like if I want to dupe an entire function sig. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders Sidney de Koning - be a geek, in rockstar style! Flash / AIR Developer @ www.funky-monkey.nl Technical Writer @ www.insideria.com 3GB free storage you can sync with your mobile device or Mac or PC. Check out https://www.getdropbox.com/referrals/NTI1MjcxMzk ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders -- --Joel Stransky stranskydesign.com ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container withoutusing addChild() method.
Merrill, Jason wrote: brevity == BAD So then wouldn't you mean to write, I would consider brevity to be a bad thing... instead? ;) LOL. Jason Merrill Bank of America Global Learning Shared Services Solutions Development Monthly meetings on the Adobe Flash platform for rich media experiences - join the Bank of America Flash Platform Community ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
I think you're right, but I saw one guy here at work writing something like
this for readability he said!
if (value != null) {
;
} else if (value == null) {
;
}
From: Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com
Reply-To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:17:05 +0100
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without
using addChild() method.
Dave Watts wrote:
snip
It really depends on the language. Since I'm moving (more or less)
from Java to AS3, more or less, I'm usually using explicit expressions
because that's what people do in Java. On the other hand, in the
ColdFusion code I've written, I usually use implicit Boolean
evaluation.
I don't think writing good code is related to languages, despite the
different constructs available between them. I think good coding style
is based on simple principles, and brevity or speed of coding is not
included.
Short coding constructs may be perceived as elegant and aid coding
speed, but that wholly misses the point - coding isn't a race nor is
optimising the number of bytes in the source code. Showing a deep
knowledge of a software language through use of the language in ways
that are not so clear to mere mortals less familiar with the language,
isn't good. It is rarely a good idea to optimise code by using a faster
programming construct that makes the intention of the code less clear.
Good coding should be clear - even for those less familiar with the
language. Truncated coding constructs may be efficient and even elegant,
but will they be easily understandable by someone else (or even the same
person much later)? Code minimalism can hide the true intention of the
code and introduce unintended behaviour when mistakes are made. When
code is expansive (verbose even) the intention of the code is clear.
When someone relies on some language behaviour for handling null values,
the reader may be left wondering whether the original developer really
intended that the code should handle nulls in this way, or is it some
accidental happenstance of using that construct? Are nulls really
relevant here in this code snippet or not. Testing specifically for
nulls is explicit and unambiguous.
Maintainability - truncated constructs can sometimes mean that changes
for updates mean undoing the efficient constructs that performed well
for specific case they were coded for, but will have to be ditched
completely for the more complicated case, leaving the updater to unwind
the intention of the shorter construct and translate that to the wider case.
As far as fast coding goes, everybody likes a helpful ide or editor,
but really fast coders really aren't team coders and the need for
speed is less important than the need for clarity. I'm not a fast
coder. Sometimes I wish I was an even slower coder, because then I'd
realise I could code things rather better than going rushing in to get
things done.
I once worked with a guy who had a clear desk and often sat reading the
newspaper. It did attract some critical comment, but that guy had the
right idea. Before he started coding he spent a lot of time on the
design, getting that right. A faster code editor or fancy programming
wouldn't have made him a better developer. He spent most of his time
getting it right before his hands hit the keyboard. He was the best
developer I ever met.
So, in my insignificant opinion - brevity == BAD, fast coding ==BAD.
Paul
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
We might want to change the subjet line. Our ACElash-friend must have gotten scared from the responses on his question how he should do a parent.addchild(self) :) Anyways in my perception a long list of if elses is not always my ideal of readable code. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
I think you're right, but I saw one guy here at work writing something like
this for readability he said!
if (value != null) {
;
} else if (value == null) {
;
}
There's a difference between verbose and just plain dumb.
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Can I get a copy of this thread in paperback? You can not find this
stuff anywhere else in the world. I was actually going to ask where I
could get some info on coding best practices and go buy a book, but I
am glad I saved my money.
;)
Karl
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On Aug 18, 2009, at 4:58 PM, Patrick Matte
patrick.ma...@tbwachiat.com wrote:
I think you're right, but I saw one guy here at work writing
something like
this for readability he said!
if (value != null) {
;
} else if (value == null) {
;
}
From: Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com
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Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 22:17:05 +0100
To: Flash Coders List flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a
container without
using addChild() method.
Dave Watts wrote:
snip
It really depends on the language. Since I'm moving (more or less)
from Java to AS3, more or less, I'm usually using explicit
expressions
because that's what people do in Java. On the other hand, in the
ColdFusion code I've written, I usually use implicit Boolean
evaluation.
I don't think writing good code is related to languages, despite
the
different constructs available between them. I think good coding
style
is based on simple principles, and brevity or speed of coding is not
included.
Short coding constructs may be perceived as elegant and aid coding
speed, but that wholly misses the point - coding isn't a race nor is
optimising the number of bytes in the source code. Showing a deep
knowledge of a software language through use of the language in ways
that are not so clear to mere mortals less familiar with the
language,
isn't good. It is rarely a good idea to optimise code by using a
faster
programming construct that makes the intention of the code less
clear.
Good coding should be clear - even for those less familiar with the
language. Truncated coding constructs may be efficient and even
elegant,
but will they be easily understandable by someone else (or even the
same
person much later)? Code minimalism can hide the true intention of
the
code and introduce unintended behaviour when mistakes are made. When
code is expansive (verbose even) the intention of the code is clear.
When someone relies on some language behaviour for handling null
values,
the reader may be left wondering whether the original developer
really
intended that the code should handle nulls in this way, or is it some
accidental happenstance of using that construct? Are nulls really
relevant here in this code snippet or not. Testing specifically for
nulls is explicit and unambiguous.
Maintainability - truncated constructs can sometimes mean that
changes
for updates mean undoing the efficient constructs that performed
well
for specific case they were coded for, but will have to be ditched
completely for the more complicated case, leaving the updater to
unwind
the intention of the shorter construct and translate that to the
wider case.
As far as fast coding goes, everybody likes a helpful ide or
editor,
but really fast coders really aren't team coders and the need for
speed is less important than the need for clarity. I'm not a fast
coder. Sometimes I wish I was an even slower coder, because then I'd
realise I could code things rather better than going rushing in to
get
things done.
I once worked with a guy who had a clear desk and often sat reading
the
newspaper. It did attract some critical comment, but that guy had the
right idea. Before he started coding he spent a lot of time on the
design, getting that right. A faster code editor or fancy programming
wouldn't have made him a better developer. He spent most of his time
getting it right before his hands hit the keyboard. He was the best
developer I ever met.
So, in my insignificant opinion - brevity == BAD, fast coding ==BAD.
Paul
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[Flashcoders] maintainable code
some great optimalistations can be found here:
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html
for ex.
class Truth
{
boolean isTrue ( boolean assertion )
{
if ( assertion != false )
{
return assertion;
}
else
{
return assertion;
}
}
}
...
var doIt:Boolean;
var trutherizer:Truth = new Truth();
if ( trutherizer.isTrue( s.equals( t ) ) )
{
doIt = true;
}
else
{
doIt = false;
}
// hint: all the above accomplishes is:
doIt = (s==t);
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
2009/8/19 Leandro Ferreira dur...@gmail.com: A good CODER must go beyond a good CODE be fast when needed. That's MHO, and It gets clear when we compare the number of lines we use to express ourselves. Indeed. And you unintentionally help to illustrate the point. Paul's post, though long, is clear in what it communicates. Your post is brief, but I am finding it difficult to extract any meaning from it. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Writing readable code writing less code.
That is what it comes down to. Most coders can understand both of the
following:
if(myObj){;}
and
if(myObj != null){;}
I would opt for the latter method always, as otherwise you are relying on
renderer specific logic to handle the conversion, as opposed to explicit
conversion.
I have actually spent an hr trying to debug an IE specific JS error, only to
find that even though implicit type conversion was working in other
browsers, it was throwing an error in a specific version of IE.
By your argument of less code more code, this:
public function outputList():*{;}
would be better than
public function outputList():Array{;}
and AS2 would be better than AS3 on the whole basis that you didn't have to
typecast anything.
Just because a certain environment can convert types for you, doesn't mean
that you shouldn't typecast or not hint as to their object type in your
code.
Personally, I can type faster than I can think in code. I type really fast,
and I think code really fast, and typing out the extra 10 characters doesn't
hinder my productivity, it probably enhances it.
If you want to take the implicit convesion route, by all means I am not
going to stop you or object. However, I do and will always believe that it
is better for other people reading/working on your code that you do spell it
all out, use line breaks when it makes sense, and typecast all your
variables.
I think Dave's point was that you seemed rather authoritative, and this is
really a subjective matter.
- Taka
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Peter B pete...@googlemail.com wrote:
2009/8/19 Leandro Ferreira dur...@gmail.com:
A good CODER must go beyond a good CODE be fast when needed. That's MHO,
and
It gets clear when we compare the number of lines we use to express
ourselves.
Indeed. And you unintentionally help to illustrate the point. Paul's
post, though long, is clear in what it communicates. Your post is
brief, but I am finding it difficult to extract any meaning from it.
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
That's plain bad english, I assure you :)A good CODER must go beyond a good CODE and be fast when needed. Leandro Ferreira On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 22:02, Peter B pete...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/8/19 Leandro Ferreira dur...@gmail.com: A good CODER must go beyond a good CODE be fast when needed. That's MHO, and It gets clear when we compare the number of lines we use to express ourselves. Indeed. And you unintentionally help to illustrate the point. Paul's post, though long, is clear in what it communicates. Your post is brief, but I am finding it difficult to extract any meaning from it. ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders ___ Flashcoders mailing list Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/listinfo/flashcoders
Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Taka,
When you're done building your Straw Man, you let me know and I'll happily
continue the discussion with you.
Cheers,
Steven
Taka Kojima wrote:
Writing readable code writing less code.
That is what it comes down to. Most coders can understand both of the
following:
if(myObj){;}
and
if(myObj != null){;}
I would opt for the latter method always, as otherwise you are relying on
renderer specific logic to handle the conversion, as opposed to explicit
conversion.
I have actually spent an hr trying to debug an IE specific JS error, only to
find that even though implicit type conversion was working in other
browsers, it was throwing an error in a specific version of IE.
By your argument of less code more code, this:
public function outputList():*{;}
would be better than
public function outputList():Array{;}
and AS2 would be better than AS3 on the whole basis that you didn't have to
typecast anything.
Just because a certain environment can convert types for you, doesn't mean
that you shouldn't typecast or not hint as to their object type in your
code.
Personally, I can type faster than I can think in code. I type really fast,
and I think code really fast, and typing out the extra 10 characters doesn't
hinder my productivity, it probably enhances it.
If you want to take the implicit convesion route, by all means I am not
going to stop you or object. However, I do and will always believe that it
is better for other people reading/working on your code that you do spell it
all out, use line breaks when it makes sense, and typecast all your
variables.
I think Dave's point was that you seemed rather authoritative, and this is
really a subjective matter.
- Taka
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Re: [Flashcoders] How to add a DisplayObject into a container without using addChild() method.
Whoohoo, a lot of explicit coders here :D
Steven Sacks wrote:
Taka,
When you're done building your Straw Man, you let me know and I'll
happily continue the discussion with you.
Cheers,
Steven
Taka Kojima wrote:
Writing readable code writing less code.
That is what it comes down to. Most coders can understand both of the
following:
if(myObj){;}
and
if(myObj != null){;}
I would opt for the latter method always, as otherwise you are
relying on
renderer specific logic to handle the conversion, as opposed to explicit
conversion.
I have actually spent an hr trying to debug an IE specific JS error,
only to
find that even though implicit type conversion was working in other
browsers, it was throwing an error in a specific version of IE.
By your argument of less code more code, this:
public function outputList():*{;}
would be better than
public function outputList():Array{;}
and AS2 would be better than AS3 on the whole basis that you didn't
have to
typecast anything.
Just because a certain environment can convert types for you, doesn't
mean
that you shouldn't typecast or not hint as to their object type in your
code.
Personally, I can type faster than I can think in code. I type really
fast,
and I think code really fast, and typing out the extra 10 characters
doesn't
hinder my productivity, it probably enhances it.
If you want to take the implicit convesion route, by all means I am not
going to stop you or object. However, I do and will always believe
that it
is better for other people reading/working on your code that you do
spell it
all out, use line breaks when it makes sense, and typecast all your
variables.
I think Dave's point was that you seemed rather authoritative, and
this is
really a subjective matter.
- Taka
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Re: [Flashcoders] maintainable code
This remainds me of a utility method written by a former coworker at my
previous job, that rightfully belongs in the daily WTF.
public static function mtd_validarVar (variable : Object) :Boolean
{
if (
variable == false ||
variable == undefined ||
variable == ||
variable == null
)
{
return false
}else
{
return true
}
}
Had he checked against 0, at least this method could have been used as a
generic replacement for the obscure and unreadable implicit boolean
coercion...
He also had the chutzpah to put this method in our core library, in a class
conveniently named VarUtils, so the whole team could benefit from it.
To add insult to injury, he had a very personal take on hungarian notation
and code formatting as well. Not to mention he was also in the tabs should
be 8 spaces here, there and everywhere, and if you and the rest of the world
use 4 spaces, rest asured I will reformat any such piece of crap as soon as
I get a chance to put my hands on it camp.
Nevertheless, he was a cool guy.
Cheers
Juan Pablo Califano
2009/8/18 Latcho spamtha...@gmail.com
some great optimalistations can be found here:
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html
for ex.
class Truth
{
boolean isTrue ( boolean assertion )
{
if ( assertion != false )
{
return assertion;
}
else
{
return assertion;
}
}
}
...
var doIt:Boolean;
var trutherizer:Truth = new Truth();
if ( trutherizer.isTrue( s.equals( t ) ) )
{
doIt = true;
}
else
{
doIt = false;
}
// hint: all the above accomplishes is:
doIt = (s==t);
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Re: [Flashcoders] maintainable code
WTF comes from trying to plan for worse case scenarios.
I did not write this. My doppleganger did :)
var WorstCaseSenario:*= 0x00 ;
trace(toBoolean(WorstCaseSenario) == false);
function toBoolean(bool:*):Boolean
{
if (bool == || !bool) {
return false;
}
if (bool is Boolean == false) {
bool=String(bool);
}
if (bool is String) {
bool=String(bool).toLowerCase().replace(/^\s+|\s+$/mig,);
if (/\d+|\dx\d+/.test(bool)) {
if (Number(bool) == 1) {
return true;
}
if (Number(bool) == 0) {
return false;
}
}
if (bool == true) {
return true;
}
if (bool == false) {
return false;
}
return false;
}
return bool;
}
-- Keith H --
www.keith-hair.net
Juan Pablo Califano wrote:
This remainds me of a utility method written by a former coworker at my
previous job, that rightfully belongs in the daily WTF.
public static function mtd_validarVar (variable : Object) :Boolean
{
if (
variable == false ||
variable == undefined ||
variable == ||
variable == null
)
{
return false
}else
{
return true
}
}
Had he checked against 0, at least this method could have been used as a
generic replacement for the obscure and unreadable implicit boolean
coercion...
He also had the chutzpah to put this method in our core library, in a class
conveniently named VarUtils, so the whole team could benefit from it.
To add insult to injury, he had a very personal take on hungarian notation
and code formatting as well. Not to mention he was also in the tabs should
be 8 spaces here, there and everywhere, and if you and the rest of the world
use 4 spaces, rest asured I will reformat any such piece of crap as soon as
I get a chance to put my hands on it camp.
Nevertheless, he was a cool guy.
Cheers
Juan Pablo Califano
2009/8/18 Latcho spamtha...@gmail.com
some great optimalistations can be found here:
http://mindprod.com/jgloss/unmain.html
for ex.
class Truth
{
boolean isTrue ( boolean assertion )
{
if ( assertion != false )
{
return assertion;
}
else
{
return assertion;
}
}
}
...
var doIt:Boolean;
var trutherizer:Truth = new Truth();
if ( trutherizer.isTrue( s.equals( t ) ) )
{
doIt = true;
}
else
{
doIt = false;
}
// hint: all the above accomplishes is:
doIt = (s==t);
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